-Does anyone think the writers inserted Aurra Sing into the movie just to annoy Tank?
-Literally six months ago, those dice were an obscure trivia question for hardcore Star Wars nerds. Now they've been an important symbol of something in two straight movies. Why?
I think they showed up in TFA as an easter egg more or less, and in TLJ they wanted Luke to have a THING that was Hans, both to focus on, and to give to Leia later. The only object I associate with Han is his blaster, and that went down with him.
I think the idea here was to reverse bookend the idea.
-Speaking of which, why not spice as the MacGuffin? That's not an EU thing. C-3P0 mentioned the spice mines of Kessel way back in ANH. Why change that?
One, because it was always a Dune eastern egg, and two, because I assume spice is basically drugs. I think the idea was always that Han was running drugs for Jabba, but its a family movie. I dont think Disney is in the business, nor is it on brand, to base an entire movie around a legendary Star Wars character trying to run drugs.
-I'm thinking L3 is going to annoy a lot of people on both sides. The folks that scream "SJW!" sure have an easy target here. And the actual SJWs probably won't be happy that the droid is kinda subverting them. Although, subverting characters like Archie Bunker are often embraced by those that are being mocked. So who knows?
I hope every fanbro crybaby that thinks that the new SW have a political agenda gets their dainty feelings hurt, and walks away from fandom. We dont need them and theyre poopheads.
-Note to films in general: TURN UP THE LIGHTS. It feels like as I get older and my eyesight has started giving me difficulty with contrast in the dark, films keep getting darker. Knock it off!
The lighting was all over the place. I couldnt see **** on Corellia, and when they get to Dravens penthouse everything is fuzzy. Granted, if Lucas had been at the helm the view outside would have been chock full of flying alien creatures, spaceships, and crazy backdrops but the white flare outs were killing me.
Oh, I forgot to mention a big one. It vexes me that they altered Han rescuing Chewie. Instead of being what gets him kicked out of the Imperial Navy, it's just another coincidence. The rescue of Chewbacca has long been a piece of Star Wars lore and should NOT have been changed. Because of that, the movie missed out big time on establishing just exactly why Chewbacca was so loyal to Han. Heck, the closest we get to it is when Han gives Chewie a weapon and then takes off on his own anyway on Kessel. Like Han could have stopped him.
It's Chewbacca that has the surprise return rescue against his own interests. That is backwards.
I'm as diehard as many of you, but not necessarily a purist. I don't think the two are mutual.
I'm fine with this kind of retconning. Chewie existing in some flavor of slavery to Han never felt quite right. The two of them becoming bros because they're BFF's that watch each others backs just comes across as a way better relationship dynamic.
Im somewhere between the two of you. Poe is right, the story of how they met is up there with Obi-Wan fighting Vader on a volcanic planet. It was one of those things that always just Was. That said, I dont think they need to be precious or beholden to it. The spirit of it was there, Han DID rescue Chewie from being a slave to the Empire.
That said, I do agree with Poe that nothing happened in this story to earn the life debt.
Loved it! And I hereby declare it to be in full canonicity with the EU! I mean, with blatant references like the Maw, and even the events of Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu, it seems to me that this film was clearly an olive branch to EU fans.
I think it was more of a thrown bone than an olive branch, based on the fact one of the writers no doubt grew up on the EU knowing what his father had been a part of. Its also the Lucasfilm brain trust forcing the notion of cross-promotion, something Lucas was never interested in outside of things spinning off from the films.
But answer me this, did you like it just because of the Eu nods? Even you admit its not a perfect fit continuity wise, isnt it possible you just liked it cause it was a fun Star Wars movie?
See? Good EU-friendly movies are entirely possible!
Also, why is he simply called Maul in the credits, and not Darth Maul? Cool to see that Ray Park reprised his role.
He dropped the title after Sidious/Palpatine abandoned him. In TCW he tried to make a push for power, but was no longer a Sith, despite being a dark-sider. I never cared for the micro-distinctions, but that is why.
A large chunk of the audience has not seen Clone Wars or Rebels and thought Maul was perma-dead. So I just don't get why they would do such a thing other than to confuse people. It almost seemed like they were angling for a sequel, or at least a continuation of Qira. Which... good luck with that I guess.
The Maul scene was just a set up for the Obi-Wan film for me (hopefully that and not just to squeeze a token lightsaber into the film!), and thats not necessarily a bad thing. Agreed that it would have been mighty confusing to those who havent watched the animated shows - thought they could have drawn more emphasis to the robotic legs maybe, but there we go.
I don't think Maul was a setup for Obi-Wan because the conclusion to that was already presented in Rebels.
(Right or wrong, that matters now I guess)
I hope they ignore this.
While it was cool to see him and it was fun, the cameo pretty much baffles me. Even though Ive seen the cartoons, I dont love that they assume everyone has, cause yeah, to most people hes dead, and they didnt put quite enough attention on his robot legs to sell the point he survived.
I also dont love that Quira gets no real end to her arc by tying her into this. Obviously, they are setting up something, but I have no idea what. They gave him the lightsaber he has in Rebels so I would assume that means they arent going to over-write Maul and Obi-Wans showdown on that show, so its not for the Obi-Wan movie. (Also, they had faced off in the comic on Tattooine as well, so theres been two versions of their rematch). It was just a strange move that made things seem unfinished.