Darth Krawlie Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 It sucks that the title has been held hostage for as long as it has and will likely be for another year now, when it should’ve ended a year ago. I don’t care about rock OR Roman’s feelings. It’s stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 On 2/6/2024 at 10:40 AM, Hobbes said: I think this whole Cody/ Rock is fucking genius. I think they are going to make the Rock into the next Mr. McMahon kinda like how Mr. McMahon was created at the Montreal Screw Job. I can just see it--Cody wasn't ready...Cody screwed Cody! It will be Seth v. Cody. People will be cheering for The Rock over Roman--but that will suck for Roman with all the Cody chants. Not too sure about the Rock getting cheered. The Rocky sucks chants already started last night. And Wrestlemania is going to be in Philadelphia. If there’s one crowd that just might turn on that match, it’s them. Though I suspect it being WM may help the WWE, since the stadium will not just be Philly natives but also have a percentage of traveling fans who will be happy to be there and not care who is on the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Despite the fact that people want the belt off of Roman, if it keeps going the way it is Rock will be hated going into this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 On 2/6/2024 at 4:15 PM, Lord Darth Hunter said: Not too sure about the Rock getting cheered. The Rocky sucks chants already started last night. And Wrestlemania is going to be in Philadelphia. If there’s one crowd that just might turn on that match, it’s them. Though I suspect it being WM may help the WWE, since the stadium will not just be Philly natives but also have a percentage of traveling fans who will be happy to be there and not care who is on the card. Whoops--thats what I meant to type--they will boo Rock and/or chant Cody. I am doubling down on Rock being the owner/heel character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I normally wouldn't care too much about a press conference, but I'm watching the Mania presser tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Oh shit!!! This should be an interesting couple of months. Go Cody!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 If the WWE admitted the mistake and did a 180, they've make this VERY interesting going forward. If this was the plan all along then it's very good planning. Though there are some big holes. Cody didn't insult the Rock or Roman's family. Leads me to believe this was a s correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I don’t think this was the plan either because the way it started makes no sense. Cody told Roman he will end up facing him for the title, and his exact words were “but not at Wrestlemania.” Then he called Rock out, they hugged it out before he left the ring so Rock and Roman could have their staredown. I believe WWE (with a lot of pushing from the Rock himself) decided to insert the Rock into the main event of WM to take the attention away from the Vince lawsuit headlines. They really thought no one would care Cody was being screwed because hey, it’s the Rock. The crowd will eat it up and the Vince stuff will be forgotten. Cody can then have his moment at a later date (just like he himself said that first night). But once they saw how fast the fans turned on Rocky, they pivoted to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I've seen all the talk about distracting from Vince. I'm not buying it. Vince hasn't been a regular on television for a while now. If you throw out the WM stuff with Theory and Rollins he's had no real presence for the last couple of years. WWE fans don't care because they know who Vince is. Hell most of this stuff is jist the Attitude Era come to life. I believe when the Rock said he'd do Mania TKO said let's do it and sell tickets. That's why the setup didn't make sense. When the fans said we don't want the Rock, TKO said "oh crap". Last night was the right move and makes for potentially a long term story with Rock/Roman. You have the Rock talking about sitting at the head of the table and him and Roman are hugging it out kast night? That has to be resolved in some way at some point. Summerslam? Next WrestleMania? Cole and McAfee were in on this. Big E and Punk obviously weren't until it happened. Then i think the producers told them where to go. And that made for some gold comments from Punk. Big E reminding everyone that Rock was niw Cody's boss and Punk saying "So that makes it workplace violence" had me dying. Heel Rock was always the better Rock IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomaa Jedi Piarra Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 So looks like the presser had a spoiler for Elimination Chamber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 hours ago, Metropolis said: I've seen all the talk about distracting from Vince. I'm not buying it. Vince hasn't been a regular on television for a while now. If you throw out the WM stuff with Theory and Rollins he's had no real presence for the last couple of years. WWE fans don't care because they know who Vince is. Hell most of this stuff is jist the Attitude Era come to life. I believe when the Rock said he'd do Mania TKO said let's do it and sell tickets. That's why the setup didn't make sense. When the fans said we don't want the Rock, TKO said "oh crap". Last night was the right move and makes for potentially a long term story with Rock/Roman. You have the Rock talking about sitting at the head of the table and him and Roman are hugging it out kast night? That has to be resolved in some way at some point. Summerslam? Next WrestleMania? Cole and McAfee were in on this. Big E and Punk obviously weren't until it happened. Then i think the producers told them where to go. And that made for some gold comments from Punk. Big E reminding everyone that Rock was niw Cody's boss and Punk saying "So that makes it workplace violence" had me dying. Heel Rock was always the better Rock IMO. When we talk about changing the narrative from the Vince lawsuit, it’s not WWE fans we’re referring to. Sure to WWE fans who tune in to every TV show and PLE regularly, the Vince “character” hasn’t been a part of any “storylines” in a long time. But to the mainstream media, the sponsors, the corporate suits and the people who only tune in once in a while, particularly only during Wrestlemania season, Vince was still WWE. I saw tons of media coverage and backlash from people discussing how “it’s about time this “wrasslin’” company was brought to its knees. You could tell from the way it was being covered and stuff being said that these were not regular viewers. But to TKO and all the suits, that kind of noise makes them nervous. It makes companies like Slim Jim consider their sponsorships. There are people inside who have said it was lucky the Netflix deal went through before the lawsuit came to light or else it would’ve jeopardized that as well. I do agree with you that the Rock’s involvement was a separate issue. It wasn’t inserted strictly because of the lawsuit. It would’ve happened regardless because I do believe, as you said, that the Rock walked in to the offices and said he wanted to have a match at WM and TKO salivated at the thought of how much more $$$ they could make with him on the card. I’m just saying that this provided an opportunity to take some heat off the company. The Rock is such a media darling, you see how Hollywood and the mainstream media fawn all over him. Him being the face of WWE right now definitely makes some of those angry folks put the Vince stuff on the back burner. What TKO didn’t realize was WWE fans don’t fall for him the way Hollywood does. They never figured the fans would crap on his return. But it seems like they learned from the past that it’s better to pivot while there’s still time rather than force the issue. I still remember years ago when WWE trotted Rock out there to raise Roman’s hand after he won the Royal Rumble and the look on Rock’s face when the fans booed both of them out of the building. I think that RR was in Philly too actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I don't think Seth will see the ring before WrestleMania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 If The Rock actually wrestles at WrestleMania it's going to be against HHH lol. H was just firing shots left and right a bit ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Hunter's got a pacemaker, he ain't working. If they wanted to do Rock vs a proxy sure, but I don't know who that would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Stone Cold Steve Austin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 That would be too far out of left field lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I think it would work if it was going to be the speculated tag match. Roman-Rock vs Cody-Austin. Especially since during the Kickoff show they brought into the storyline that Rock getting on the TKO board is what led to this. Big E made it a point to say Rock is now the boss. So what better way to counter than with the ultimate anti-boss asskicker? It was also established on that first Smackdown two weeks ago that Cody had sought counsel with a number of people before he brought out the Rock. That would be his play now. Hey Rock, remember I said numerous people? You weren’t the only one I talked to. Austin’s music hits and the crowd blows the roof off the arena. If TKO really wanted a main event for the ages, that would be it. Of course all this is for nought since HHH already said last night Cody vs Roman 1-on-1 for the title will happen at WM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Metropolis Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Do you think it's going to be Seth versus The Rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I really don’t. They’ve set up the elimination chamber match to be number one contender. Obviously anything can happen but I don’t see them pulling another Rock related swerve after how badly the first attempt went Plus, if Seth is nursing an injury, to they really want him being the ring general against a winded-after-one-move Rock? Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Metropolis Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I wonder if Rock had to go to a thrift store for that vest, or was it in the back of his closet in his house in Atlanta lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Thoughts about Monday Night Raw. Did anyone catch Pat McAfee attempt to do Mr. Perfect’s pencil trick? The women’s division is in shambles. The top stars Becky Lynch and Bianca Belair are stale. When Becky was talking the crowd was relatively silent and unresponsive. You could just tell everyone wanted her to get to the point. This is the woman who not too long ago was being billed as the female Steve Austin. The returning stars Liv Morgan and Naomi have already gotten boring and get zero reaction. And new people like Tiffany Stratton have had no time to build the character on the main roster so when she comes out she looks out of place and no one knows what to do with it. “Finish the story” is supposed to be Cody Rhodes’ journey. But now it’s being appropriated by everybody. During the Gunther vs Jey Uso main event, McAfee was cheering Jey on to finish his story when Jey got the upper hand and looked like he was about to win. It reminds of the time Daniel Bryan started the “yes movement.” It was his character being pushed on by the fans to fight the Authority (HHH and Stephanie.) But then you had guys like the Big Show using it to confront the Authority wanting a title match or else “he’d bring his lawyers in.” Show used the Yes chants and hand gestures for himself through that whole idiotic “lawyers” storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 The Big Show thing was an attempt by Vince to prove that Bryan wasn't actually over, it was the chant. An obvious and total failure, of course--plus anything that involves "lawyers" and "boards of directors" in wrestling storylines is almost always totally awful. That being said, not sure I'm with you on the "finish the story" part, but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I have to ask what you guys think as regular watchers— is Rock turning heel and the Cody plans what they were planning all along, or did they pivot when people were pissed Roxk stole Cody’s spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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