Mara Jade Skywalker Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm with Jacen - I always interpreted "forest moon of Endor" to mean that it's a moon OF the planet Endor. Also, why are we saying novelizations aren't canon but the Ewok movies are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I never said the Ewoks films were canon, just used them as an additional example. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Ewok movies are the main canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 A few years back, I rewatched the Ewok movies and, while the first one was dreadful, I actually thought that Battle for Endor was alright for its purposes. That could have partly been nostalgia for me, of course, since I believe I saw it before I even knew of Star Wars, but I didn't regret spending time on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 All toys, and sets, make Endor out as the moon. Other EU made Endor out as the moon, I'm sure most intentionally forget Ewoks: The Battle for Endor. The novelizations are EU btw, they are full of inconsistencies with the films. I feel safe saying my tag of "ubernerds, official or otherwise," still is correct.Not according to Disney they aren't. Disney numbers the movie novelizations among their canon as well, just as George Lucas considered them G-canon previously. So it's your precious movie canon that is full of inconsistencies and contradictions. Have fun with that.I'm with Jacen - I always interpreted "forest moon of Endor" to mean that it's a moon OF the planet Endor. Not me. I always took the same interpretation with Endor as I did with "the ice planet of Hoth" (even though I'm sure the latter isn't spoken in the films, but elsewhere). And the Ewoks movies are no longer canon. They held C-canon status previously which, along with everything else under G- and T-canons, was deposed. Wait, why am I worrying about the technicalities of the Disney canon? I don't even accept it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 So it's your precious movie canon that is full of inconsistencies and contradictions. Have fun with that. You act like this is breaking news. We been done known that. Dude, half the shit outta OB1's mouth in New Hope contradicts the prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 And he acts like a jilted lover in denial because the EU isn't official anymore. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I first read that as "jihad lover" which ... still kinda works. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm an EU fan, more than I am a fan of the movies. In my view, the EU kept Star Wars great and did more interesting things with it than the movies ever did. To "move on" (i.e. dump it for the new Disney canon) is like telling Firefly fans to stop liking Firefrly. I will not be following the new canon because I simply don't care about it. Just as many of you here don't care about the old canon, I'm the opposite. I will probably see the new films, and maybe even enjoy them, but I will take the same approach to them as I did to the old "Infinities" titles: as apocryphal. I am an Old Canonist. In my view, Star Wars died with the EU and what exists in its place now is an imitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 My first instinct was to mock you for planning ahead to not like something but I realized I had this attitude about not liking New BSG vs Old BSG. So I actually get where you're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I didn't mean move on from liking EU. Like whatever the hell you want, I couldn't care less. I meant move on from always bringing it up and being so angry about it. I know in the conversation about Endor it makes sense, but you bring it up in other threads specifically about TFA and "new canon" issues, where it's completely irrelevant. That's what I think you should move on from. But then again, who the hell cares what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The whole idea of canon is odd from the get-go. How can people get so upset about which parts of a fiction "really" happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Anyway, like I said... ubernerds. Wear it proud, Z. :-) Afterthought: I like What is Canon? discussions, until they become a crutch to my enjoyment. Then I just substitute my own reality. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I thought ubernerds were people who know every detail about alternative transportation services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Well, I do know what a Heisenberg Compensator is... and it isn't a euphemism for meth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 My first instinct was to mock you for planning ahead to not like something but I realized I had this attitude about not liking New BSG vs Old BSG. So I actually get where you're coming from.I didn't say I wasn't planning on liking it. I even said I might like the new movies, but they still won't be canon to me because I am simply not interested in following the new canon.I didn't mean move on from liking EU. Like whatever the hell you want, I couldn't care less. I meant move on from always bringing it up and being so angry about it. I know in the conversation about Endor it makes sense, but you bring it up in other threads specifically about TFA and "new canon" issues, where it's completely irrelevant. That's what I think you should move on from. But then again, who the hell cares what I think.You've got a point. I will keep that in mind moving forward. Anyway, like I said... ubernerds. Wear it proud, Z. :-) Oh, I know it, and I do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 James Bond and Batman never have this problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Good point. I think because they're both far more cartoonish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I think it is because those properties do not indulge this aspect of fandom. Star Wars and Star Trek lived off of feeding fandom's need to immerse themselves. Escapism vs Immersion, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 SD-- so you're saying the movies about suave men of action are more cartoony than the movies that literally have Muppets in them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 That, plus the fact that Lucas Film made a concentrated effort to ensure that there would always ever be only one Star Wars universe, and to make all of the material largely consistent with few major contradictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 I'm an EU fan, more than I am a fan of the movies. In my view, the EU kept Star Wars great and did more interesting things with it than the movies ever did. To "move on" (i.e. dump it for the new Disney canon) is like telling Firefly fans to stop liking Firefrly. I will not be following the new canon because I simply don't care about it. Just as many of you here don't care about the old canon, I'm the opposite. I will probably see the new films, and maybe even enjoy them, but I will take the same approach to them as I did to the old "Infinities" titles: as apocryphal. I am an Old Canonist. In my view, Star Wars died with the EU and what exists in its place now is an imitation. Im thy New Canonist. (the prequels...?) But Im not offended by EU. SW never dies. It shows where SW fans were 'at the time', which has no use for me, so.....I'm yous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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