Darth Krawlie Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yeah, and isn't Bespin a gas giant? What about the planet Endor, is there anything about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Pre-Disney, at least, it was also a gas giant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The Disney planets are all going to be dwarfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 That would be so dopey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Pre-Disney, at least, it was also a gas giant.Not Endor itself. Endor is but one of the moons of a gas giant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015  Pre-Disney, at least, it was also a gas giant.Not Endor itself. Endor is but one of the moons of a gas giant. *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Huh. Well, there's one thing that slipped by me all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryn Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I think some of the confusion stems from interpretation of Ackbar's line about the "Forest moon of Endor." At least, for me it was difficult to wholly reconcile until the Atlas was published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Seems like EU ubernerds, official or otherwise, decided in this instance the word 'of' meant relative-to rather than following as descriptive-of. I call BS. Endor is the moon. Such as; The barren moon of Luna, Terra's sole natural satellite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 ...on the nearby forrest-moon of Endor.Your friends, up there on the sanctuary MOON are walking into a trap. I always figured endor was the moon. I can see how both ways make sense. meh whatever. The way I see it, if it's a simple matter of nomenclature, and it's ambiguous, than both can be correct. There's no basis for determining which is right or wrong since the movie is the only authority, and that failed. It doesn't matter anyways since everybody understands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 This movie needs to come out sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 It helps to think short term. First, there's the Super Bowl. Then march madness. Then avengers. And that's four months away. But yeah I want more TFA things to talk about too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Quasi-related: That's how I got into golf and tennis back in the day. Needed something to watch in June/July when no other sports were on (baseball doesn't count) to get me back to football season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 If JJ had his way, even the teaser we've seen wouldn't have been released. I swear, he'll be giving SW fans as many reasons to complain as Lucas ever did. Sometimes I think Abrams takes his love of secrecy waaaay too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Seems like EU ubernerds, official or otherwise, decided in this instance the word 'of' meant relative-to rather than following as descriptive-of. I call BS. Endor is the moon. Such as; The barren moon of Luna, Terra's sole natural satellite.Ubernerds = normal people who watched the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Seems like EU ubernerds, official or otherwise, decided in this instance the word 'of' meant relative-to rather than following as descriptive-of. I call BS. Endor is the moon. Such as; The barren moon of Luna, Terra's sole natural satellite.Except that the "EU ubernerds" weren't the ones who started it. The novelization of Return of the Jedi was the source that originally identified Endor as the gas giant that the forest moon orbits. You attempt to blame the EU and its devotees: FAIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 What the **** is happening hereNerd overload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 All toys, and sets, make Endor out as the moon. Other EU made Endor out as the moon, I'm sure most intentionally forget Ewoks: The Battle for Endor. The novelizations are EU btw, they are full of inconsistencies with the films. I feel safe saying my tag of "ubernerds, official or otherwise," still is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 What does the script say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 This is why I didn't want to include Endor until Jacob brought it up. When looking up the forest moon on Wikipedia, it mentions that the moon is often known as Endor, but that the name technically belongs to the planet. Besides this case, though, whenever I hear a name including "of" it refers to location or ancestry, not as a description of the object being named. Using THT's example, if I was referring to Earth's moon, I would not call it "the barren moon of Luna", but rather "the barren moon, Luna". If I was going to include an "of" in there, it would be as "the barren moon, Luna, of Earth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Really though, it's both. Yavin is referred to as a planet in ANH. We call the moon the Rebel base was on Yavin IV. Same for Endor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 That's right, of course. The problem here however is the EU enforcing that correct usage over a line of dialogue spoken by an alien in a film series where aliens often speak incorrectly. Context says the moon is Endor. Toys say the moon is Endor. Video games say the moon is Endor. TV films say the moon is Endor. Mara says anyone watching the film would say it's the planet not the moon. I find that extremely hard to believe. Ubernerds say it's the planet, I think it's more likely that everyone else doesn't even recall the Ewoks lived on a moon but instead it was a forest planet and then maybe it was called Endor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 "Ubernerd," like that doesn't include everyone with 10+ years of posting history on a Star Wars message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I've never disqualified myself from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Nerd is a matter of degree. Consumption of EU material must perforce make the consumer an individual of greater nerdiness, therefore "ubernerd" is an appropriate appellation for those people. Merely posting on a messageboard is a lesser degree of nerdiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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