Ms. Spam Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Carpet bombing is not a real answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelentlessMalice Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 The whole problem to me stems from the original two state deal not happening after the creation of Israel. The U.N. needs to step in a go through with creating a Palestinian state. However we all know that the root of the problem is that the radicals on the Jewish and Palestinian sides that will never allow peace to happen. So what is the best solution? Toss up to me. You have Hamas who is nothing more than a friendly neighborhood terrorist group who help the people in Gaza and at the same time cause innocent people there harm by using human shields, storing weapons in schools knowing full well the Israeli military will not play games to defend itself. Hamas reminds me of an organized crime faction like the mob that provide protection but at a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Cut all diplomatic ties and stop giving aid to either side.Let them kill each other until everybody is dead or they get too tired and move on to other things. Resume relations, offer help rebuilding, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelentlessMalice Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 They have had since 1947 to do that pong and they have not done it yet. By that I mean get tired of killing each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 What about recognizing Hamas as a real government? Is it too late now? Why is Israel so stupid about this. Personally this is the one thing I think the Obama Administration almost gets right. If only because it slightly inflames the GOP far righters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelentlessMalice Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Because they are not legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 They won fair and square! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelentlessMalice Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Well of course they won. They have all the weapons,money,intimidation tactics,payoffs and was the only group with strength. If I was stuck in that shit hole I would pick them too. They give the people the ability to stick it to Israel. Like I said earliet the radicals on both sides will keep this conflict going long after we are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 I gotta go with Pong. No more aid! Think of the budget cut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelentlessMalice Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Oh I am fine by that too. I think Israel can fend for themselves without our help. I am all for cutting funding. It will not stop the killing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsidian Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 More than just cutting aid to either side. Launch an embargo. Forbid any company from doing business with either side. Freeze any assets Israeli citizens or Palestinians have outside of Israel. Cut both sides off from the world outside as much as possible. That is the only way to hope to achieve peace. Only when neither side has allies they can run and hide behind will they both be forced to achieve a peaceful solution. Until then, the extremists that control both peoples will continue to do everything possible to prevent peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Shoulda given them Alaska way back when... Just saying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 There isn't a clean solution. I think the clean(ish) solution was missed out when Alexander the Great died before realizing his dream of uniting the East and West. Too much has happened in the 2000+ years since. Back then, it was just the one (big) offense....Greeks and Persians. Now, there are more than I could name. Greeks vs. Turks. Muslims vs. Jews/Christians. Sunnis vs. Shiites. Secularism vs. fundamentalism. Edit: The more I think about it, the more I side with Pong. The victors might be a little sore at us, but I guess money talks and the rest walks. It seems that the current strategy is to loosely shake hands with Israel and keep an eye on the rest of the Middle East while hoping everything calms down after a while. It worked with the Cold War, so it's not the worst strategy I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelentlessMalice Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 But this isnt a political/economic war which was the cold war. This is religious nuts on both sides who will not let shit go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryn Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 It's beyond ridiculous: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2715466/Israeli-official-calls-concentration-camps-Gaza-conquest-entire-Gaza-Strip-annihilation-fighting-forces-supporters.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelentlessMalice Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Well there has to be a winner eventually in this conflict. I think one thing is perfectly clear these two groups cannot be neighbors. At the end of the day there is no winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolence Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 This might be too closely aligned with "carpet bombing" but my solution has always been to just drop a nuke or two on Gaza. Obliterate the land, kill on the Palestinians there and make the land uninhabitable for millennium to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DESTINY Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Funny, I was thinking the same for Tel Aviv. I ****ing hate the IDF and I ****ing loath Likud. And the Zionist need to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolence Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I'm not particular to either side to be honest, I just picked Gaza because it's smaller, thus less environmental impact. I suppose we should conduct a resource assessment first and nuke whichever zone will provide less economic advantage over the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Pretty sure the total obliteration of ALL religion accross the globe would be the best solution for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolence Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Which is why I keep hoping this Ebola spirals into a mass wave of global extinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Bleak, but can't argue the balancing logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 More than just cutting aid to either side. Launch an embargo. Forbid any company from doing business with either side. Freeze any assets Israeli citizens or Palestinians have outside of Israel. Cut both sides off from the world outside as much as possible. That is the only way to hope to achieve peace. Only when neither side has allies they can run and hide behind will they both be forced to achieve a peaceful solution. Until then, the extremists that control both peoples will continue to do everything possible to prevent peace.That may be all well and good to wash the US's hands of it, but both sides will find other countries more than willing to do business with them. After all, the US didn't have much to do with the 1948 Palestine war, and the Israelis won that one. The Russians, Chinese, and probably most of Europe would help the highest bidder, while most of the Middle East, especially Iran, would help anyone dedicated to the destruction of Israel. So not much would change, in my view, other than the anti-Israel elements in the US would feel happy about sticking it to Israel. The killing would go on. The real answer is there is no answer, and whatever action the US takes is a losing action, in my view. These people have been fighting for a couple thousand years on and off, now. They've fought so long, I think they don't even know why they hate each other anymore. It's just engrained in their DNA at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 The solution is no states at all, anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacefulMindedJedi Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Uh... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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