Jango Fett Posted December 19, 2008 Author Share Posted December 19, 2008 I just realized something. Think back to the Season One episode Dungeons and Dragons where we first saw Kyle Reese. Derek was hassling Kyle over keeping a picture of Sarah Connor with him. Immediately after this, they're sent out on a patrol, and after the squad is attacked by an aerial HK, Kyle disappears. Derek never sees him again. We're meant to understand that this was when John sent Kyle back to 1984, and Derek was kept in the dark over it. But in Terminator 1, we're shown a scene where Kyle and his squad just get in from a patrol, sometime before he's sent back in time, a future flashback if you will. A T-800 infiltrates the base he's in, and starts an attack. Kyle starts fighting back, but in the attack, the Terminator hits a gas line or something that explodes. Kyle drops Sarah's picture and a piece of flaming debris lands on it, burning it up, destroying the picture. How is it that Kyle lost the photo to fire before he was sent back, but then had it on him again right before he's sent back in time? Continuity error on the writers' part? This is the SCC episode I'm talking about: This is the T1 scene I'm talking about: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I think that's meant to tell us that we're dealing with two different timelines here. Good pickup though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Maker Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 They could have gotten separated, with Kyle just as likely believing Derek to be dead. That could still allow for the T1 flashback (flashforward?) scene without any contradiciton. Admittedly, that might be a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jango Fett Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 They could have gotten separated, with Kyle just as likely believing Derek to be dead. That could still allow for the T1 flashback (flashforward?) scene without any contradiciton. Admittedly, that might be a stretch. Actually, now that I think of it: In the SCC episode, the orders to go out on patrol come from Perry. The squad goes up, and then gets seperated. In T1, Kyle tells Silberman that he served under Perry from 2021 to 2027, at which point John Connor took him under his wing to work diredctly for him up until 2029 when he was sent back in time. Could be that if anything, the T1 scene takes place AFTER Kyle is transferred to Connor's command, and thinks Derek is just as much gone as the vice versa, especially since Derek was captured for some time. He'd have been assigned a new squad by that point, I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Like Dexter said though-- timelines. T3 was a different timeline, dialog from Salvation implies a different timeline, and Jesse and Derek remember different futures. I think alterations to the timeline is part of the Terminator mythos now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 TSCC just won the nod as Nightly's Best Television Show of 2008! Also, new episodes of TSCC are set to start airing in Feburary! 02/13/09 to be exact. Mark your calendars, check your local listings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Nice! I'm looking forward to the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Yeah, me too! I was lukewarm about this series coming into this season and it's really won me over. The writers are doing a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jango Fett Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 Started up again tonight. Anyone else catch it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I caught it. Pros: Love seeing Enterprise Dude/ Wraith Michael in another show I like and love that he turned out to be evil. Love that Riley played the "I'm just manipulating John" card to explain her suicide attempt when we all know it's straight boolsheet. But hey, at least it got her an hour of hawt hawt sex with Jesse. Personally, I'd have held out for two hours with her moist hawtness, but an hour works. Love how badass Derek is. BLAM! Truck blows up. SNEAK SNEAK, BURN DOCUMENTS, SLIP AWAY. Awesome. Love John being put in his place by Derek for his retarded choices. Cons: Another ghost on another TV show? This is fast becoming a very tired cliche. I don't watch that many shows and I'm still seeing this gimmick twice a week on TV. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 When Sarah escaped from the hospital by tricking the guard, I was thinking that is so Friday the 13th part 5's ending. I'm sure that's not where they got the idea from and probably no one knows what I'm talking about, but that was what was going through my mind. Cool to see whatsherface go on a killing spree and the explosion with her walking out of the fire totally reminded me of T2. I also liked how they dressed Kyle in almost the exact clothes from the first movie. Were those Nike shoes he was wearing? It looked pretty close. He's actually a pretty good match for Michael Biehn, well voice wise. I really like the casting on this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jango Fett Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 But hey, at least it got her an hour of hawt hawt sex with Jesse. Personally, I'd have held out for two hours with her moist hawtness, but an hour works. No! Don't say that! Jesse belongs to Derek and only Derek. She wouldn't flake on him with some chick, least of all Riley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Not a bad return... pretty light on the Cameron action! No outright complaints-- is that the same guy they had play Kyle in the flashbacks earlier in the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ifto Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Yeah its the same guy, according to iMDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jango Fett Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 In all three episodes Kyle has appeared in, they've had the same guy play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Legend Killa Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 What season are you guys on now? I got season 1 for chirstmas and love it. I want to know when Season 2 is available on DVD too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ifto Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Season 2 isnt complete yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 But hey, at least it got her an hour of hawt hawt sex with Jesse. Personally, I'd have held out for two hours with her moist hawtness, but an hour works. No! Don't say that! Jesse belongs to Derek and only Derek. She wouldn't flake on him with some chick, least of all Riley! Whoa. Are you saying there's something wrong with Jesse being bi? Dude! If it makes you feel any better I get the idea that she just has sex with Riley to control her but that she actually has feelings for Derek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Legend Killa Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Season 2 isnt complete yet.That would be why I can't buy it then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Malfoy Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Season 2 isnt complete yet.That would be why I can't buy it then! Maybe they will do half seasons like Battlestar Galactica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jango Fett Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 But hey, at least it got her an hour of hawt hawt sex with Jesse. Personally, I'd have held out for two hours with her moist hawtness, but an hour works. No! Don't say that! Jesse belongs to Derek and only Derek. She wouldn't flake on him with some chick, least of all Riley! Whoa. Are you saying there's something wrong with Jesse being bi? Dude! If it makes you feel any better I get the idea that she just has sex with Riley to control her but that she actually has feelings for Derek. No. So far there's no proof that she's bi, for one. What I'm saying is I like Derek and Jesse as an item, and I wouldn't want that to be corrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Good news T:TSCC fans! According to IMDB and Wiki FOX is going to have 8 straight weeks of new episodes airing now until the middle of April. Once a week every week all new episodes straight to, presumably, the season finale! Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Maker Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Cons: Another ghost on another TV show? This is fast becoming a very tired cliche. I don't watch that many shows and I'm still seeing this gimmick twice a week on TV. WTF? Are you referring to Kyle? Sarah has long been driven by visions of Kyle keeping her on task; I don't think this is a new element for the Terminator series. More to the point, what we are seeing of Kyle is not a ghost, but a hallucination manifested by Sarah's instability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Legend Killa Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Season 2 isnt complete yet.That would be why I can't buy it then! Maybe they will do half seasons like Battlestar GalacticaHopefully, I watched s2-e1 tonight and I can't watch another one where the dubbing is off by three seconds! Oh and WTF is with the change of the opening? Sarah speaking over it was good, now this random man voice jus sounds stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Even though this episode was just okay, I think it did an excellent job of setting up the rest of the season. Why did the Shirley Manson-bot destroy that factory? What was there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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