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I could get behind that. If it were done really well, and was just the two of them, I could see it going somewhere. Thinking back to the Timmverse "World's Finest" it wasn't that bad.

So long as it was a good story that played up their contrasting methodology, and not just a match-up to fight threat-x (lke a JLA movie would be) I'd have some hope.

Speaking for myself (of course), I'm really not interested in a blending Nolan's Batman with any of the other DC characters on film. I just don't see them working tonally and I think it would just a cheap ploy to jolt some life back into Superman by including the superior franchise into the stale mold.

I agree. I know they want to work toward a Justice League film, but I just never like Batman mixing with other superheroes. I didn't like the JL cartoon anywhere near as much as I did the Batman animated series. I'm not a fan of DC superheroes in general, with the exception of Batman, and for me he works best in Gotham, in the shadows as a crime fighting vigilante. I like my Batman lurking in the shadows. He loses moxie when I see him standing on deck of a brightly lit spacestation, or flying a jet next to Superman. It's just.. meh.

I totally can't see flying, laser vision or superstrength type stuff in the Nolanverse.

Ledgers death helped-- but at its core TDK was simply just a better movie than Returns. It can't be attributed to one simple aspect or formula, which is something execs never seem to get. It's like Star Trek-- it set a benchmark that they foolishly tried to emulate to try and cash in and it never worked.

 

As for a news Sues direction-- I'd love to see All Star Superman adapted, or maybe the pitch Millar has been pushing i in.

 

I'd disagree on the Star Trek point. That franchise reached its peak at the end if the TNG era. And it certainly worked from a cash flow perspective.

 

As for my suggestion for a Superman reboot...I'd play with the style and give it a feel from the 50s (actors and dialogue included). Get some giant monsters or robots in the first act. Lois in distress from an over-the-top villain (Ultra-Humanite in his ape version) perhaps in the climax.

 

Sure it'd suck. But in an awesome way.

I left out the important words "Wrath Of Khan." I meant that when we got to the next gen cast films, the pre-press always seemed to say "it's like Khan in the way that..." until we got Nemesis which was not only the worst of their films, but the most obvious rip-off of Khan. While that was the fan fav, the biggest box office lure was Voyage home, which begets more than one time travel story until they came way over played. Exec think seems to be if something works one, let's do it again!

As for supes, I certainly don't hope they do an origin tale. It' not needed. EVERYONE knows the Superman origin. Why bother. Personally, I'd love to see Luthor as a villain again, bot as Luther should be, with Bizarro at the end of his chain to do the muscle. Grant Morrison said something that totally made the Superman/Luthor relationship make sense to me. He saif that Superman is a God, that thinks he's a man, while Luthor is a man who thinks he's a god.

Ledgers death helped-- but at its core TDK was simply just a better movie than Returns. It can't be attributed to one simple aspect or formula, which is something execs never seem to get. It's like Star Trek-- it set a benchmark that they foolishly tried to emulate to try and cash in and it never worked.

As for a news Sues direction-- I'd love to see All Star Superman adapted, or maybe the pitch Millar has been pushing i in.

The basic conceit of Superman Returns was good-- the worlds has moved on without him, and he comes back. That's a fresh angle. If the WORLD is a dark and broody place, and Superman returns to sunshine that **** up-- I'd buy that.

If Superman is moody and downtrodden and wearing black-- eff that.

You have to love Exec logic. Dark worked for Batman, ergo every other superhero film must be dark to be successful.

I'm sure we haven't seen the last of Donna. After all, Rose was on another world TRAPPED OMG FOREVER NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN. and yet there she was. In the world of sci-fi there's always a way.

Unconfirmed. That rumor has been going around near the end of every season Tennant has done. The whole reason 2009's season is only going to be 4 specials is to give Tennant a break so that he'll come back in 2010.

 

Okay, that's great to hear. I mean, we're running out of Doctors and no one should be too hasty to change the status quo. I hope Tennant stays onboard as long as Tom Baker!

Totally!

it's funny, if you like at the Doctor's life from his perspective, what is considered an "average" lifespan of a regeneration? I have to assume his "first" form was the longest lived since he was an old man when we met him. Seems to me if you had 13 lives on top of being long-living, if you blew one in a year or so i might feel like a waste! (6th and 9th)

Bill Nighy would be great.

So would Kevin McKidd, Carlyle...

Eddie Izzard would be interesting. I love him, but I never thought of him playing The Doctor. If he did it, they' certainly have to writer him differently. That's my one complaint with the new series, Tennant and Eccelson were written very similar. Their performances were different, but they way the react to things, they're motivations-- anything in the scripts, is pretty much the same.

Unconfirmed. That rumor has been going around near the end of every season Tennant has done. The whole reason 2009's season is only going to be 4 specials is to give Tennant a break so that he'll come back in 2010.

Well, it's an easy fix. The Master got more at one point, so why not the Doctor? Plus they could always do a "prequel" with a new actor playing the younger version of William Hartnell. They could even bring back McGann for the "lost years" and/or time wars.

 

Actually, word has it that some (all?) of the 4 specials in 2009 do not take place chronologically (in terms of the Doctor's personal time line) after the events in "Journey's End". And there is a big fan desire to have McGann come back. You know, that TVM from '96 pulled in 9 million viewers (out of 50 million in England). And McGann played the Doctor as recently as last year in one of the Big Finish audio dramas. I think bringing him back for a flashback story is a very viable thing to do.

I've always thought so! Even if he's aged, you have to consider that he was the Doctor right up to shortly before Eccelson's run-- so even in his "personal timeline" McGann could have been around for a hundred years. I've always assumed that since Eccelson hints that his regeneration is somewhat recent. it makes sense that McGann was technically the body the doctor had during the timewar.

Well, it's an easy fix. The Master got more at one point, so why not the Doctor? Plus they could always do a "prequel" with a new actor playing the younger version of William Hartnell. They could even bring back McGann for the "lost years" and/or time wars.

Question...

The BBC version of the news confirms that Season 5 will be four or so episodes that are a bit longer in length ala the Christmas specials, and that season 5 will be back to a full 12 episodes.

really enjoyed the finale but agree that it didn't have the big cliffhanger that i was expecting....

 

i really enjoyed Amy Smart... she did such a great job in GONE BABY GONE it was nice to see her do comedy... such a huge change from that... she was brilliant... and i absolutey LOVED the whole bit with her and Kevin and thinking he was special... classic stuff... i also loved how Michael stopped himself from saying "that's what she said"... showed how much he really liked this woman...

 

for a second there i thought that Hunter was going to be the father... that sperm bank twist i didn't see coming... it'll be interesting to see how that plays out next year as Michael will try to be father to the child...

 

and is it official that Toby is leaving and will head up the new spin-off?

 

OH and i LOVED Daryl's band... awesome!

i think you mean Amy RYAN.

But yeah-- the "Kevin is special" gag slayed me. They could play that out forever.

Also also also : does the show make no distinction between the terms Timelord and Gallifreyan or have I been wrong all the time with the assumption that all Timelords are Gallifreyans but not all Gallifreyans are Timelords?

I remember wondering the same thing back in the 80's and a trip to wiki tells me that they've never made it very clear. Though you have to think that not all Gallifreyans are timelords what with what we've sen. I recall computer technicians, guards, and other suck meanil jobs on home trips to Galifrey. You telling me if you could be a timelord you'd take a crap guard duty job?

no-- but I never know if we are talking about an episode I get to see in a week, or a year.

only if you're a torrent junkie!

I'm lost-- I think we need two Dr. Who threads-- one to track with what's airing in the US on scifi, and what's going on in the UK on BBC.

I remember that-- I know the time lords can bestow more too-- but with them all gone, I don't know that the Doctor could exercise that option.

I wish they'd explain more about the Time War. i get that in the here and now of the Doctor's perspective, Galifrey is gone-- but couldn't he just go back in time o when it existed if he wanted to visit?

Or does the time war result inGalifrey being erased from all time? Wouldn't make a paradox? Is is it one of those wibbly wobbly timey wimey mysteries?

Speaking of Susan, it occurred to me the other day that they are running you of regenerations if the Doctor only has 12. I thought they could squeeze in an extra doctor if they wanted to do a prequel of sorts, and have a younger actor play the first Doctor in his younger days since we started with him so old already.

The whole thing's on there? Where?

Thanks to youtube i finally just saw the Tennant/Davison Two Doctors bit. It was touching!

Really? i felt like tonight was the first time they were back on form since the return.

synopses of the final three episodes:

4.12 “DID I STUTTER?”

05/01/2008 (09:00PM - 09:30PM) (Thursday) : When Stanley (Leslie David Baker) snaps at Michael (Golden Globe winner Steve Carell) during a meeting, Michael tries to give Stanley an attitude adjustment. Dwight (Rainn Wilson) decides to buy Andy’s (Ed Helms) car. Meanwhile, Pam (Jenna Fischer) deals with an unexpected inconvenience after spending the night at Jim’s (John Krasinski).

4.13 “JOB FAIR”

05/08/2008 (09:00PM - 09:31PM) (Thursday) : Jim (John Krasinski) hits the links with Andy (Ed Helms) and Kevin (Brian Baumgartner) to try and land his biggest client ever. Meanwhile, Michael (Golden Globe winner Steve Carell) sets up a booth at a local job fair, which happens to be at Pam’s (Jenna Fischer) alma mater, to find “the best and the brightest” for Dunder-Mifflin’s summer internship.

4.14 “GOODBYE TOBY”

05/15/2008 (09:00PM – 10:00PM) (Thursday) : It’s Toby’s (Paul Lieberstein) goodbye party at Dunder Mifflin and Michael (Golden Globe winner Steve Carell) demands a huge celebration that matches the joy in his heart. Angela (Angela Kinsey), sick of Michael’s unreasonable last minute demands, refuses, and Michael turns to Phyllis (Phyllis Smith) to take over the party planning committee. Meanwhile, Dwight (Rainn Wilson) and Meredith (Kate Flannery) haze the new HR woman, Holly (Oscar Nominee Amy Ryan).

If Toby really leaves my guess is he's the one headed for the spin-off.