Odine Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Never watched TCW, something about the animation and art direction didn't jive with me. But what you said makes sense too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/17/2023 at 7:01 AM, Zathras said: Well if you remember from TCW, Mandalore had at the time of the PT was a peace-loving pacifist society. This was after thousands of years of Mandalore being a warlike, honor-bound society. I think the Watch is just the remnants of the warlike era. Maybe that is why Bo-Katan sees them as zealots? But Bo Katan was part of these “zealots” and fought against her own sister to bring an end to the pacifist society her sister was running. (Remember, in TCW this group was blowing up civilian buildings on Mandalore, killing innocent people.) Katan didn’t leave the group because she had a change of heart or came to the conclusion that their terrorist actions were wrong. She only left the group because Maul took over and “he wasn’t Mandalorian.” That’s why when I see her now sulking about the downfall of her planet (that she likes to remind Din over and over that she once ruled), I can’t help but think you got what you wanted. The warrior culture and its entry into the war that ultimately brought the planet to ruin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 All of that is true, but my problem is The Watch are presented as awfully culty, and a legacy character tells us clearly they are zealots, establishes they are in fact zealots via subtext and visuals. And now they are possibly reversing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Or, the lesson could be zealotry isn't inherently a bad thing. Can be a good guy and a zealot at the same same time time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 13 hours ago, Tank said: All of that is true, but my problem is The Watch are presented as awfully culty, and a legacy character tells us clearly they are zealots, establishes they are in fact zealots via subtext and visuals. And now they are possibly reversing that. I always felt watching the show that Mando would lead these guys away from their zealotry at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Same— maybe I’m wrong, but… I don’t know… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue 3 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Nice! That’s the dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue 3 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Nice guest appearance in this weeks episode from an actor in a different role! Think I could have had many guesses and not predicted that! Good proper Mando episode - maybe some might argue a filler, but I think it was important with Mando & Bo-Katan spending the whole episode with the clan and saving the day. Very enjoyable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Wicket Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Meesa back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoLA Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I did not know that was him until the credits! Soon as I saw the name I realized it was him. So, one thing I thought was weird. The bird thing took the kid and Bo followed it back to the nest. Why did it wait an entire day to barf him up? Conveniently moments after they arrived. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Wader Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 For me at least, Carl Weathers has been the first director to genuinely capture the ‘feel’ of Star Wars in the Disney era. I mean if someone told me Lucas had secretly directed the episode I wouldn’t have been that surprised. It felt like one of the old Saturday morning serial shows like the OT and the flashback scenes wouldn’t feel that out of place in the prequels either. The episode he did in the second season was one of my favourites for similar reasons as well. He just seems to have a good feel for Star Wars. So yeah, really enjoyed this episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue 3 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Ok, so I was a bit critical on the first episode (side quests and all that), but I take it back! Very nice episode today, tying in to those events and more good progression on the Mando clan story. Another cameo - this time a character from the Rebels show! A further cheeky set up for the Ahsoka show (after the hyperspace whales in ep 1), no doubt about it. Very understated and nicely done. And good epilogue to the episode in teasing out what’s to come. Lovely stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I agree, a fun episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Def felt a little more on track. I will say, I am far more interested in Bo's arc than Mando's Part of me thinks Grogu should have left with Luke, and Mando off into the sunset and this show could have been handed off to Bo. Maybe I'm a bit more invested having liked her in animated form,. I think Katie Sackoff really gives her a presence. If this season really is about the restoration of Mandalore, we shouldn't have had to dick around for 4 episodes to get to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Thats kinda my issue with the show. Whats its about? Is it about the Mandalorians? Is it about how the FIrst Order rose during the New Republic? Is it about fun adventures with Mando and Grogu? I suppose its all of the. BUt thats why I just dont like this style if story telling. Where its like like lets have major events that should pertain to this show taking place in BOBF. It just doesn't quite work for me. For me its like, just tell a story. Don't fill in gaps of another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Wader Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I think all the New Republic and Empire stuff isn’t as much as about filling in the gaps for the First Order but setting up Thrawn as the eventual big bad across this and Ashoka. First Order will probably a part in it though. But yeah, the storytelling on this is really disjointed, wish they’d just done one singular ensemble show from the get go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 17 hours ago, The Choc said: Thats kinda my issue with the show. Whats its about? Exactly. They've lost THE WAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I think the season has been good from the start. I think knowing that there will only be 8 episodes leaves you looking and thinking "okay how are we going to wrap this up?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 4 hours ago, Tank said: Exactly. They've lost THE WAY. I like this show. I always watch it right away. I dont like it as much as alot of fans seem to, which is fine. But my main issue is I feel there is a gear they can go to which they seem to stay away from on purpose. Now maybe its due to budget. Maybe they are about to go balls to the wall Mandalorians vs Imperials which could be great. I just dont have faith they are going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoLA Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Zeb looked so good in live action! Like how this series has been setting up Ahsoka a bit with these little teasers. It's nice to get confirmation that we will be getting the full team of the remaining Rebels back for her show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Holy crap i thought that was just A Lasat. I didn't know it was Zeb. This is actually in me but i keep losing track of the timelines. Andor and Kenobi are post prequel shows. The Mandalorian and BOBF are post ROTJ. When I watch old Clone Wars episodes I forget how young Ahsoka was even compared to Rebels. I don't follow rumors about SW anymore so I'm not aware of Ahsoka is suppose to occur concurrent with Mando or further ahead in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I haven’t started watching this season yet. But it sounds like, from you guys here and elsewhere, it’s more cartoon continuation? I’m just… so not interested in that. I’ll watch it, but it’s gonna be hard for me to care. My wife likes it, but any time I have to start explaining lore in order for it (or any show, not just Star Wars), she tunes out. When it’s lore even I don’t know, why the hell should we bother watching at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svenn Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I haven’t watched any of the cartoons, and I’m sure I’m missing some context here and there, but it doesn’t seem to be an issue. I’m enjoying it. In a way it’s like the references to the clone wars in A New Hope. There’s a backstory being referenced. But you don’t have to know it to follow the story in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Yeah it's like you can care as little or as much as you like. This season is a shambles if you care about things, but I'm enjoying it enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue 3 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I’m enjoying this season as well. It would be much better if they had left the Grogu story as it was like a number of us have said. Just doesn’t feel like he fits in with this plot. But am enjoying the progression of the Mandalorian group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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