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Not trying to take over this thread--it's supposed to be about COVID not my parents--but they called to tell us to come out anyway. My mom is only allowed to visit my dad once a week now anyway, so th

I think the people like that are the most afraid. They're afraid of anything being slightly outside the norm. Afraid of having to make hard choices and deal with things not being as expected. We're al

Morning receptionist texts me out of the blue this morning - "We are starting to get our freedoms back and people are loving it!" I texted back "yeah, the vaccine rollout is happening so fast, I di

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Got stuck in the wrong spot, perhaps?

Our company is making everyone get the shot because we are a major government contractor. You would think the world was ending. They've made it pretty clear that the only religious exemption will be for Christian Science or Amish, and I'm pretty sure Amish folks aren't working at my company. You also have to provide a letter from your religious leader and they will determine if its legit. No political exemptions. Medical exemptions also require a doctor's note.

Some are predicting a 10-20% reduction in force. I'm hoping its not that bad. The medical system here had a 8% non-compliance rate. But I think those folks are a little more likely to fall in line because of their background. So hopefully it's just a lot of screaming but they will ultimately comply, just under protest.

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Lawd, work drama. The school where I work has ALL THE COVID RULES (most of which I wrote before I got fed up and quit for a year; I'm now back in a different role), but administration is lax about enforcement. 

There's a woman who works in our computer lab. She's your stereotypical rebel flag wavin', crass, loudmouth, bigoted, Trump sits at the right hand of God, them immigrants be takin' our jobs and rapin' all the white women blah blah blah. Last Friday, I came in to work, and she was sitting at her desk with her mask around her chin, just doing how she gonna do. Her job involves greeting the people who come in, getting them logged in, etc. Naturally, because we vibe like that, I told her to put her goddamn mask on. Cue ALL THE SPEECHIFYING about "mah freedumbs" and "liberty" and "rights" and "I caint breathe" and her doctor has her on ivermectin :rolleyes:. While we were exchanging reasoned discourse like "You're too damn stupid to get COVID anyway, so no worries" (me to her) and "You're just a commie lib sheeple democrat who hates freedom and Jesus" (her to me), one of our librarians wandered through.

Now, this dude is your stereotypical holdout 60s flower child, complete with John Lennon glasses, long gray hair in a ponytail, and a station wagon that he has hand painted with slogans like "Love is the way and peace is the road." 

Mr. Librarian *went off* on our girl. Lots of how he was sick of ignorant people putting him at risk, and how her stupidity was disgusting, and how it was people like her that were what was wrong with our society today. I was gobsmacked because he is usually so "Whatever, dude, follow your bliss, don't harsh my mellow, pass me that Mary Jane and let's flip this Joan Baez album over and chill." 

Librarian then went to his desk and fired off an email to Computer Lab Lady's boss and copied half our staff. The email basically stated that Computer Lab Lady was a plague carrying fool. It included a request that she be "appropriately disciplined" by "at minimum a job reassignment with no contact with students" but "it would be more appropriate that she be terminated with cause for willful disregard for the health and welfare of others." 

Harsh, yes? I agree she should be instructed to wear a mask, but dayum, he went full-on burn the witch. 

Naturally, folks chose sides, mostly "she needs to do the right thing, but he handled this really inappropriately" and so things went on as they do in academic circles. (We're all about tempests in teapots, as a rule.) Until Tuesday night, when our librarian stoner posted an Instagram of him, out at a bar with a dozen or so other people, and not a single mask in sight. 

Computer Lab Lady is livid (she referred to him as a hypocritical old fuck) and Librarian Man is the very picture of wounded righteousness because he's vaccinated so not at risk, and I just want everyone to settle the hell down, and I'm kind of in the mix because Computer Lab Lady and I were sniping at each other (six feet apart, naturally, and kind of good-naturedly because we each think the other one is ridiculous) when he wandered through. She's not even mad at me, but I think she would cheerfully run over the librarian if she saw him in the parking lot. And I have relearned a valuable lesson about keeping my head down and mouth shut. 

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My daughter's school had to quarantine the entire 5th grade last week because they had 5 cases in 4 days. Then this week in 3 days, we had 2 cases in 4th grade (her grade) before the holiday break, one of which was in her class. I'm half expecting a quarantine next week because I'm sure more cases popped up. Last week I was also getting daily emails from my son's school that there had been a positive case but no close contacts.

I have my kids COVID shots scheduled for next Friday, which is the soonest I could get them in. I'm so sick of this.

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I'm not sure I qualify for a booster in Washington right now. I'm not old enough, I don't have underlying risk, and I don't work in a job that puts me at higher risk (although that last point is highly subject to interpretation, which I suppose is the point). Honestly, I would really like to see the antibody tests become more available and studied.

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Today everyone jumped off the Crazytown Bridge at my daughter's school. They notified us Saturday night that they needed to quarantine the entire 4th grade, just like they did for 5th grade. One of the parents who is also a specialist teacher decided to start a woe is me because we're going to make lemonade out of lemons (or maybe she meant limoncello?) thread on our parent Facebook group. A bunch of anti-vax/anti-mask moms showed up and started complaining about how their kids are being "muzzled" enough and they're about ready to pull them all out. My daughter's BFF's mom told them she got the kids vaccinated, so I provided a link to sign ups because it is actually super hard if you don't know where to look. Specialist teacher mom deleted my link because she is also anti-mask/-vax and then they all stated going off about how they're in more danger from the vaccinated now anyway. Another dad friend popped in to challenge them and when he asked for proof, thread closed. I wrote the superintendent and asked him to consider having the kids eat in the classrooms instead of everyone in the lunch room to prevent this from happening again right away. He also had an in-person "State of the School" meeting with parents tonight. It sounds like all the crazies went. Should be fun.

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My sister in law is fuming because she's being forced to get vaccinated or lose her job. I was shocked she hasn't yet. Like everyone I run into that has not been vaccinated gets I treat like "OH you like Polio?" I mean I get her point. She's been work from home for this oil company doing billing coding for 20 years and has never EVER been to the office but she's also a freelance photographer that takes pictures of kids graduating and getting married and babies and I'm like why haven't you done it yet? It seems like a no brainer but it set her off on a list of things I just didn't have the heart to argue against so I got up and walked away instead of trying to refute any claims. Thank god I don't like her. She's also what I consider a bad parent (she's her kids best friend and enables a lot of bad behavior such as letting her kids boyfriend almost score to third base on her couch before she second thought that move about letting him stay the night).

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My in-laws want to send the whole family on a Disney cruise next summer for a Christmas present, but it is all the family goes or nothing.  My brother-in-law's family (mainly it is his wife) is refusing to vaccinate her children and Disney is mandating vaccinations. 

ULA (my wife's work) is mandating vaccinations and it is crazy the number of people quitting and (I think) losing their retirement to make so ridiculous political statement. 

I mask at work and mask up like 75% of the time in public spaces.  We are all vaccinated and boosted and such.  I really don't want to mask because at this point I don't give a real shit about the people that have made the choice not to vaccinate.  The only reason I do it is to protect the kids whose parents are choosing not to vaccinate.

 

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6 hours ago, Hobbes said:

I mask at work and mask up like 75% of the time in public spaces.  We are all vaccinated and boosted and such.  I really don't want to mask because at this point I don't give a real shit about the people that have made the choice not to vaccinate.  The only reason I do it is to protect the kids whose parents are choosing not to vaccinate.

Once we get all of the kids vaccinated whose parents want them to be, I am all about dropping mask mandated and letting the crazies reap what they sow.

Dammit, that doesn't include kids under 5 yet. Ugh. I will wait until those kids are protected before I enjoy watching the Darwin Olympics, Pandemic edition.

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I struggle so hard with this. I hate wearing a mask. But I can't disregard little kids, kids of stupid parents, or people who can't get vaxxed yet. I want so so SOOOO MUCH to be like...fuck you all, get covid! 

 

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I like to imagine Pong is happy that it's almost like an extinction event. I mean a lot of people who are antivax types have gotten Covid already. There's talk now that immunity only lasts so long especially because we can't make it to herd immunity so there's families that got it last year at Thanksgiving and thought they had natural immunity and they got it AGAIN this year well viruses evolve. It's like climate deniers. HEY there's nothing wrong with the world as they pick up endless messes made by the climate.

The one that BLOWS my mind is health care workers who refuse to get the vaccine. Like you treat these people who refused to do the right thing all day and night and you don't want the vaccine?

My step Mom makes a point of it's really that she doesn't want the government/job telling her what to do. She got vaccinated because she is no stupid but it irks her to no end that they are being told what to do and forced to do it. I feel like this is the instance in class when I say a kid HAS to do something and they instinctively shut down, refuse to do the task or thing and disrupts. 

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The American myth is that rugged individualism and hatred of authority are central to our identity. It doesn’t really hold up to even a cursory review of actual history, but it’s a myth that is more meaningful than the actual events.

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9 hours ago, Ms. Spam said:

My step Mom makes a point of it's really that she doesn't want the government/job telling her what to do. She got vaccinated because she is no stupid but it irks her to no end that they are being told what to do and forced to do it.

I know several people like this at work. Fortunately, they all got the vaccine as soon as it was offered anyway, but they don't like the gubment telling them what to do.

I had a frustrating conversation with a guy at work who realized I was religious and thought it was an opening to asking how I'm handling my religious exemption. Sorry bro, already vaxxed and have been personally affected. He told me he really wants this other vaccine that's more "natural" and doesn't use the spike protein. So I go look it up and it sure looks interesting, but it still has the spike protein, bro, its right there in the first article I found. I mean, I get it, they don't want too many EUA vaccines running around because it sets a bad precedent, but don't lose your well-paying job over wanting a different "type". Its not even religious but he figured he would try the religious angle. 

For anyone interested, he was talking about Novavax. https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/moths-and-tree-bark-how-the-novavax-vaccine-works#:~:text=The Novavax vaccine uses a,COVID-19 infection.

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What do these people do with their kids all day? Do they not having a problem sending them to government mandated schools? Where they're required to have a whole host of vaccinations?? 

I call bullshit on that whole argument. They're just being childish. 

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Well, now that I'm thinking about it, this dad in particular sends his kids to one of these schools: https://kuow.org/stories/massive-school-covid-outbreaks-occurred-at-seattle-area-schools-with-lax-protocols

So, kind of lines up. A lot of people I work with send their kids to private Christian schools in the area because I don't think our area public schools are very strong, unfortunately, especially in the more rural areas where these folks tend to live.

But yes, I'm inclined to likening them to a child throwing a tantrum about something silly because they skipped nap.

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One of my coworkers died from Covid this weekend. He had only been working for the company about 6 months, and I’ve worked with him a few times since he was hired. He seemed like a pretty cool guy, caught onto things quickly and was a fairly hard worker. It’s such a shame he had to go out at such a young age and leave behind 2 children.

 

I got my second shot on Saturday. I felt fine all the way until bedtime, when I started running fever @1 am and it continued on into Sunday evening. I was pretty much comatose all day Sunday until around 7 that evening. I had to miss work on Monday and I pretty much slept I until 11:30 am. I’m at work today, but I tossed and turned until about 3 am, when I finally fell to sleep.

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Did you ever get COVID? I'm wondering if people with strong immune responses already had the disease.

My son tested negative again, its now day 14 since my daughter started showing symptoms and 4 days since we released her from isolation. I'm admittedly really irritated that my son has to stay out for 18-20 days (and some of my know-it-all friends have said it should really be 24 days). The district is implementing a test to stay program the day he comes back. I could scream. I get it that usually if a sibling gets it, so will the others, but we are uptight around here and follow rules. Don't get me wrong that isolating her for a week sucked, but we did what we had to do to protect him.

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