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So, who is actually looking forward to the upcoming Joker movie?

 

Personally, I think the more I hear about it, the more it seems to be cool.  A self contained Joker movie.  It almost reminds me of the film King of Comedy, in a way.  That could be intentional for all I know. I think Phoenix is a damn fine actor, and I think he can pull this off.  Thoughts?



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I like Joaquin as an actor quite a lot but I have less than zero interest in this.


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I had no interest until the trailer, and then I was intrigued. I havent bought a ticket yet or plan to tho.

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I'll watch it someday if I have nothing else to do and there are no movies that I want to see our books I wan to to read and somebody else wants to watch it and I can fall asleep.

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Ill definitely rent this in the comforts of my home. Im pretty curious.

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I feel like it will be great, but I just don't care anymore.

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I didn't have any interest in this movie until like the last week or so.  Still not sure I will see it in the theater or at home, but I'll definitely see it. 



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If anyone can pull it off it would be Joaquin Phoenix. Didn't even know about it but the trailer looks good



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Allthough.. I kind of don't like origins films. I don't need to know how he becomes the joker. That just humanises him too much. He's far more terrifying as a crooked question mark. I just like a compelling character. He's gonna be a damn sight better than Jared Leto.



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I like Joaquin as an actor quite a lot but I have less than zero interest in this.

Same here. The focus on villains as leads, whether in comics or on film never appealed to me, and of all DC villains, the Joker is one who needs a long vacation. Like a decade. 



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It almost reminds me of the film King of Comedy, in a way.  That could be intentional for all I know.


That's what I'm thinking with DeNiro's casting. I'm cautiously intrigued.
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I'm tempted to see this because of Joaquin Phoenix (like others), but I'm just not in the mood for realistic and / or sadistic violent stuff at the moment.

 

Also might be a bit oscar-bait-y, with lots of "acting".



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I'm a little surprised, a Joker movie that most posters are "meh" about. I agree, though. This looks like it'll be an okay Taxi Driver homage. But as a Joker film... the trailer makes him look like a hapless dope, which is fine, we've seen that in Killing Joke, but those were quick flashbacks. I'm not super enthused on watching "guy gets kicked around by society until he learns to throw it back in society's face" sorta thing. And I know people bitch about it all time but, as with Gotham (TV show), but I just don't give **** about periphery, origin-driven, Batman-sans-Batman stories. It always begs the question and in this case is taking a major piece out the Joker's very existence. This is assuming that this predates Batman's existence, which it looks to be. The Joker is meant to be an anarchic middle finger, ironic cracked mirror reflection of Batman's costumed vigilantism. I'm not interested in the character as a zero-to-hero Guy Fawkes parallel. 


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Interesting point. Hmm. However unless my recollection is faulty, Guy Fawkes was attacking the Gov and not running around murdering people because he felt like there was a point to that.

This film, to me, feels like it is blending Se7en with Falling Down. Like you though, Brett, I am wary of the Batman-Without-Batman premises. Especially in this films case where there does not appear to be a foil to confront the madness. At the very least I would expect Gordon to be the moral foil, or someone like him.

Again, I am pretty intrigued by the trailer and yet the responses to it (if any of you have seen those) do concern me that the point the story might be making is getting skewed by the apparent lack of a moral foil.

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The only character DC/Warner has overdone more than Batman is Joker. Just give it a rest and try a different character for once. ANY other character.


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The only character DC/Warner has overdone more than Batman is Joker. Just give it a rest and try a different character for once. ANY other character.

Superman handily beats the Joker in terms of appearances, I think, unless you are counting the TImmverse, and even then, Supes is overdone there.  Joker has been in Batman 1989, Dark Knight, and suicide squad (we can forget that).  Phoenix will be the fourth WB joker.

 

BTW I don't get the idea that a Joker movie done in the style of Taxi Driver or King of Comedy is gonna suck, or shouldn't be done.  Those are some damn solid movies.  This Joker film is clearly inspired by those, and the Killing Joke, which is a pretty awesome Joker story.

 

I think in the last couple years, DC films have really upped their game, Justice League notwithstanding.  We all know the MCU has kicked the DC films' ass, but they seem to be really trying lately.  I want to believe this Joker movie will be a good one.



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For decades everyone was all "Mark Hamill nailed the voice, but is too old/fat to be the Joker."

He could do it now just as easily as Jack Nicholsen did... especially now that Star Wars has boosted his star power back up.

But at the end of the day, DC has wronged me too many times on film, and confused me with endless watered-down multiverse stories on TV (and in print) to get me to care.

I still haven't seen JL. This looks like it could be decent, but like I said-- it's next year home-view for me.
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For decades everyone was all "Mark Hamill nailed the voice, but is too old/fat to be the Joker."

He could do it now just as easily as Jack Nicholsen did... especially now that Star Wars has boosted his star power back up.

But at the end of the day, DC has wronged me too many times on film, and confused me with endless watered-down multiverse stories on TV (and in print) to get me to care.

I still haven't seen JL. This looks like it could be decent, but like I said-- it's next year home-view for me.

I get that.  I didn't watch JL until recently, myself.  MOS really killed the DC films for me, and BVS looked stupid When I saw it, it was, and I was not a fan when I saw that.  Lex Luthor in that film reminded me of the geek guy from Criminal Minds and totally took me out of the story, Batfleck was not THAT bad, though.  I liked him actually.  I didn't see Suicide Squad all the way through.   Therefore,  I was not a fan of the DC films (talking MOS on),until, well, Wonder Woman.  Aquaman was pretty awesome.  Cap, too. 

 

But this Joker movie looks like it could be pretty cool.  I get the idea that a Joker origin story de-mystifies the Joker, but I think because its Jaquin Phoenix, and they seem to be pulling inspiration from some cool sources, I WANT it to be good.  I think it will be.  I hope it is.  If it isn't, I'll be the first to blast it. 


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I think the casting of Phoenix was a brilliant choice.  No better idea than to pick one lunatic to portray one!  I'm looking forward to seeing this and hoping for a DKR-type scene where we get to see Robert De Niro die a gruesome death at the hands of Joker.  That's worth the price of admission right there.


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Imdb: 9.7
Ign: 10/10
Empire: 5/5
IndieWire: 5/5
Guardian: 5/5
LondonEveningStandard: 5/5
Deadline Hollywood: 5/5
Forbes: says it is a masterpiece
DailyTelegraph: 5/5
L.A times: 5/5
Süddeutsche Zeitung: 10/10
Variety: 5/5
HollywoodReporter: 10/10
CinemaBlend: 10/10
NerdReactor: 5/5
Nerdist: 4,5/5
Think I'm gonna check this out, yessiree
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Imdb: 9.7
Ign: 10/10
Empire: 5/5
IndieWire: 5/5
Guardian: 5/5
LondonEveningStandard: 5/5
Deadline Hollywood: 5/5
Forbes: says it is a masterpiece
DailyTelegraph: 5/5
L.A times: 5/5
Süddeutsche Zeitung: 10/10
Variety: 5/5
HollywoodReporter: 10/10
CinemaBlend: 10/10
NerdReactor: 5/5
Nerdist: 4,5/5
Think I'm gonna check this out, yessiree

I've been optimistic since day one and each passing day I think it's going to be DC's best movie in a loooong time.


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You dont count Wonder Woman or Shazam as recent? Or just not in a best of DC category?
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You dont count Wonder Woman or Shazam as recent? Or just not in a best of DC category?

Zambingo!!! Long time no see, buddy <3

 

Didn't care for Shazam and Wonder Woman was okay.  Neither blew me away.  I think Joker will though.


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Hello! [/mrs.doubtfire style] :-)

I do hope Joker lives up to your expectations and the critical hype. I feel like DC really needs more hits, both in critical reception and audience reception (via box office obvi).
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