The Choc Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Kind of confusing. Does this mean the Grant character replaced Kylo as Supreme Leader?I didn't get that at all, unless you read something I didn't read. I think he is just another General. As for the articles overall, I read two things that I liked 1-JJ saying that The Last Jedi made him feel he didn't have to stick so close to the established beats and norms and style of Star Wars. Meaning in terms of story, camera angles etc. Definitely a good thing. 2-Driver saying the ending for Kylo Ren is something he talked about with JJ since before taking the part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Choc Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Grant is playing a character called Allegiant General Pryde, so yeah, he is a general. I guess that is like a Grand Admiral or something? https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900071836/star-wars-allegiant-general-pryde-zorri-bliss-villains.html A while back in another thread, I speculated it might be cool if the First Order had a rebellion of its own against Kylo (EG he went so far evil and was so heinous, Hux or other First Order people started working against him) . Makes me wonder if something like that will actually happen. Of course, it could be the other way around, and Kylo gets redeemed, and works against the First Order. Hux was the one who really convinced Snoke to blow up a planet, it's hard to think Kylo could "go too far" for him. I think maybe it would be that Kylo isn't an effective ruler that could lead to some kind of uprising from within the ranks. Personally I don't think I'd want to see Kylo redeemed just because we've seen it before. That doesn't mean it would be a bad movie if that's the case. How about the First Order pushes Kylo out, so he works against those who betrayed him. However once the First Order is beaten we find out that Kylo was just doing it out of revenge and has no interest in being a "good guy" Another thing I read, and this was written by the author so not directly from anyone involved was this: The Rebellion was essentially trying to restore the past, bring back the Republic. They beat this awful Empire to do that but in the end it didn't have any lasting affect. He said this group has to do something different to truly defeat evil, they can't try to restore the past, they have to create a new future. And they will succeed. Ofcourse that could just be spectulation from the author but overall I like that idea that the good guys can't simply destroy the First Order again and expect evil to be defeated. They have to do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I don’t think there’s any chance this happens, but it would be a great way to screw with people to have Kylo win and the next movies be another follow up trilogy. Do what nobody is expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Choc Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Id actually like that but they are making so big a deal about this being an ending that its hard to think it won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Like I said, I don't think there's any chance of it happening. But man, it'd be an amazing way to mess with expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 The main expectation is that the good guys will win. I think that's something we would all agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rogue 3 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 As for the articles overall, I read two things that I liked 1-JJ saying that The Last Jedi made him feel he didn't have to stick so close to the established beats and norms and style of Star Wars. Meaning in terms of story, camera angles etc. Definitely a good thing. 2-Driver saying the ending for Kylo Ren is something he talked about with JJ since before taking the part. Agreed - very positive to hear they had this in mind at the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 If Kylo wins, or Rey goes Sith, or any such "subversion" I would be stoked. Just end the trilogy on a MASSIVE downer.. The bad guys win...awesome. Then announce the beginning of a new Saga that ties into this one...only without skywalker involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Oh yeah I agree, pardon my failed attempt at humor. I'm sure I just missed it between the pain pills and the muscle relaxers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Muscle relaxers eh.... How you doin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zambingo Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Would the film even be titled Rise of Skywalker if it was 1. an end to all things Skywalker 2. the villains won? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Its probably going to end with Lukes grandson being taken to Jakku along with Rey to look after him and train him in 19 years. So yes it could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Whut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DANA-kin Skywalker Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 WHATWHATWHAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 So Matt Smith is playing John Harrison, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue 3 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Ha ha! Wouldn't be surprised - was so pointless using that name on Cumberbatch's character when everyone knew he'd be Khan! (spoilers... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 What if Kylo goes good AND wins? Subverting the subverted expectations.I would LOVE Kylo to meet his end this way, starting @ 0:16... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBjXXVPBR0Q ...then cut to ghost Luke with a satisfied smile like Miyagi at the end of the original Karate Kid... ...and watch as the heads of the "I hate Finn / I love Kylo" crowd explode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 kind of annoying how few leaks there's been for this, seems even less than TLJ had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 kind of annoying how few leaks there's been for this, seems even less than TLJ had I'm kinda liking it actually. I'd really love to know if my enjoyment of the PT and ST was ruined thanks to spoilers. I like to think not, especially since I get spoilers constantly given my job... but I really do miss when I was a kid of being completely surprised, and spoilers were literally just whispers at conventions and that yellow box in Starlog magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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