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The I've Seen Solo Thread (spoilers OBV)
Posted 28 May 2018 - 10:27 PM
- pavonis +1 this
Posted 29 May 2018 - 05:28 PM
Posted 29 May 2018 - 08:30 PM
Saw it tonight. Thought it was fun and enjoyed all the Easter eggs. Even my wife, who was about as negative on the whole concept of Solo as a film and A.E. as Han as anyone on this board, thought it was a decent flick. She's still not convinced she watched Han Solo's origin story, even though I've tried to convince her that doing a Ford impression for two hours wasn't going to carry a film. It's a decent film, and everyone ragging on it is taking it too seriously. If they do make a Lando film, I'd watch it. Might be fun as a prelude film, since his Falcon was much nicer.
And, yes, Tex is unpleasant and annoying but at least.....
Posted 29 May 2018 - 08:39 PM
- Tank and Darth Krawlie +1 this
Posted 29 May 2018 - 10:17 PM
Throughout the movie he's the smiling, happy go-lucky dude who is a little too eager to join a crew. Complete opposite of the Han we met in ANH. Knowing that Alden has signed on for more films, reading the rumors that there is a possible Fett movie in the works and seeing Maul's cameo all make me think, there has to be a follow up to this film right? Why have Maul appear if it's not going to be followed up? And I don't mean in books and comics either. Solo works as a starting point for a trilogy or at least a sequel. If they leave it as is (a true standalone) with nothing else from these characters and the actors who played them, then as time goes in it will feel like a waste of a film.
Yeah, I've got a bit more of a problem with that. If the movie had any implied purpose at all, it was to illuminate the character of Han. He really doesn't need it, but it could work. Unfortunately, there's absolutely nothing in this movie that makes me understand Han better as a character. Heck, it makes me understand him less.
At the very least, set up why Han would be so reluctant to help the Rebels in ANH. Hate to bring of the novels, but the Han Solo Trilogy did this a lot better. Han got roped into helping his love interest on a job for the Rebellion and got royally screwed over by them. The love interest leaves him (to later go off and die helping to steal the Death Star plans), he and his friends don't get the money they were promised because it was going for a higher purpose, and Han's reputation in the smuggling community (including Lando who was among the swindled) was wrecked, forcing him to work for Jabba.
So, Han's justifiably of the mind of "Screw these Rebels and their high-minded hypocritical bull****" when dealing with Leia.
Say what you will about the book's quality. That synopsis alone does a much better job of setting Han up for ANH than Han happily helping Rebels before and it turning out just peachy. I mean, he lost his ex-girlfriend, but he barely even reacted to that. He didn't get the money, but it was because he's just that nice of a guy and donated it. It didn't even take much persuading and it's not like there was doom happening if he didn't help these people. Han is just an altruistic person.
How do you square that with the Han that happily took his reward money from the Rebels in ANH and was all prepared to leave even though the stakes were a crapload higher? This movie brings up more questions than it does answers, because the Han at the end of Solo would have gone all-in in helping the Rebellion without much prompting. Some girl takes off her helmet, gives a very broad sob story, and he's in. Let's just take down a crime syndicate. He showed more reluctance to help in TFA for goodness sake.
Posted 30 May 2018 - 07:04 PM
Throughout the movie he's the smiling, happy go-lucky dude who is a little too eager to join a crew. Complete opposite of the Han we met in ANH.
The funny thing is they pat themselves on the back for having Han shoot first as a wink to the fans that have been complaining that Lucas nerfed Han in the Special Edition. But this movie's portrayal of Han nerfs him like a thousand times more than one ill-considered alteration.
Here's hoping we do get to see that story of how Han became a confirmed cynic, because we do need it.