Tex Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 What do you guys think? The Republicans say that 80% of us will get a tax cut. The Democrats say that only the rich will profit and destroy the middle class in the process. I get the argument that trickle down doesn't work, but I am confident that it will boost the economy. I know this is a polarizing topic,so I'm curious to hear what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Trickle down is 100% BS, but I also dont know that its the panic that Dems say it is. I know I personally will benefit, but I also feel a little dirty about it seeing exactly who and what some of the breaks are. OverallI dont think it will help the little guy much, and while trickle down wont work, I suspect it'll balance out in other ways. I think its a dick move, but it will also force states to change things up, which is ultimately the part of the Republican smaller government pitch that I okay with. At the end of the day, I kind of don't care. Im being a bad liberal, but the one area I lean conservative is fiscally. I work my ass off to make a lot of money and if I don't have to give as much of it away, great. My partner and I Donate a crap ton to a couple charities. At the end of the day Id like to be in charge of how my wealth is spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted December 26, 2017 Author Share Posted December 26, 2017 I don't know. People piss on trickle dwon, but it did increase the GDP dramatically. For a while. Then again maybe that's the point. As a nation there's only so much we can do for evereryone. In the old days we would rely on a plague, but today we just have a bunch of i complainers on the Internet. I'm of the belief that the tax cut will benefit those that actually pay taxs. The rest can go go fuck themselves. Agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 The funny thing is that American conservatives portray themselves as the defenders of the free market, using "Reaganomics" (trickle-down theory) as the shining example of capitalism. Little do they know that the fee market and "Reaganomics" are two entirely different things.I am an anarcho-capitalist, and I say taxation is theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Tax cuts are great so long as you curb deficit spending and trade deficits. With a national debt approaching $20 trillion, and no talk of either of those, cutting taxes for the top 1% without addressing them is highly irresponsible. It takes a lot more than trickle down to fix a national debt that high. Funny how the GOP had their panties in knots over the national debt under Obama, but now it's simply ignored. Oh well, politics as usual. Both republicans and democrats are scum. Nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Well you can cut the money you give the UN. HA! Or Medicaid or Medicare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Yeah, old and infirm people just need to hurry up and die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Dameron Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 'Tis the season for doing one's duty and reducing the surplus population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kurgan Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Yeah, old and infirm people just need to hurry up and die.Carrie Mathison! You're back! As an aside, tax cuts are like any other form of public investment: subject to the law of diminishing returns. If you're cutting high rates of taxation, and tax levels are a barrier to domestic investment, they'll do wonders. But if tax levels are already low, or demand for domestic investment is also low and taxes are therefore not a barrier, they'll achieve little. It's something of a myth that cutting taxes will automatically result in more jobs. Not necessarily. Money saved from reduced taxation will go wherever it is deemed most profitable or useful. That can entail job growth, but doesn't necessarily have to. The GOP constantly beats the drum of tax cuts as the solution to everything. The Dems constantly beat the drum of "tax the rich" and invest the moneys into social programs. Both are too "one size fits all" so to speak. Policy of this nature needs to be pragmatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 I think the best part of the bill was repealing the Obamacare fine for not purchasing insurance. It literally undercuts the funding for whatever offset they needed to help the weak and infirm who are signing up for healthcare while the ones that are healthy can say "nope, can't afford it" and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 'Tis the season for doing one's duty and reducing the surplus population. George C Scott is the best Scrooge, ever. SO much so, the GOP must have also been fans, and adopted his lines as talking points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 You misspelled Scrooge McDuck. Definitely the best Ebenezer Scrooge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Ok. Live action, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I heard recently that the tax cuts were meant to screw the blue cities that vote for hippy-dippy things like NYC and San Francisco. I've been trying to read up on how this is. I find it kind of interesting. The voters that got Trump in were mostly from hard hit areas of the US like parts of the Bible belt and middle states that you fly over. Coal workers haven't been helped much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kurgan Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Coal workers haven't been helped much. They never are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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