Mara Jade Skywalker Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 This is a misnomer Legends fans seem to cling to. His words were taken out of context. He said it took him buy surprise, and he struggled with it, but after talking with Rian and seeing all the moving pieces said it made sense. THAT said-- there's no doubt in my mind people in your camp will fully DETEST Luke in this movie because he's not the happy go luck infallible hope and love wizard from the EU. I think it's hilarious that this is your impression of Luke from Legends. It could not be farther from truth, especially when Luke is the same age as in The Last Jedi. The people I know who hated Luke in this movie ALSO hated his character development in Legends. 1. ROTJ2. TFA3. ANH4. ESB5. R16. ROTS7. AOTC8. TPM I can't rank TLJ yet. I didn't like it as much overall as The Force Awakens. However, the scene with Luke on Crait is probably my favorite in the entire saga, and I like TLJ the more I think about it. So I'm unsure where it will eventually fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 It really is a hard one. I've never had such mixed feelings about a Star Wars film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 No offense taken, DANA-kin. What doesn't make sense about my likes and dislikes? Maybe I could help you understand better if you could tell me what has you confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 You're missing one Fozzie.Thanks! Fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest madddox Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 ESB > ANH > ROTJ > R1 > TFA > ROTS > TPM > TLJ > AOTC The Last Jedi is pretty much interchangeable with TPM and AOTC for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 This is a misnomer Legends fans seem to cling to. His words were taken out of context. He said it took him buy surprise, and he struggled with it, but after talking with Rian and seeing all the moving pieces said it made sense. THAT said-- there's no doubt in my mind people in your camp will fully DETEST Luke in this movie because he's not the happy go luck infallible hope and love wizard from the EU. I think it's hilarious that this is your impression of Luke from Legends. It could not be farther from truth, especially when Luke is the same age as in The Last Jedi. The people I know who hated Luke in this movie ALSO hated his character development in Legends. 1. ROTJ2. TFA3. ANH4. ESB5. R16. ROTS7. AOTC8. TPM I can't rank TLJ yet. I didn't like it as much overall as The Force Awakens. However, the scene with Luke on Crait is probably my favorite in the entire saga, and I like TLJ the more I think about it. So I'm unsure where it will eventually fall. I agree with your take on the Luke/Kylo scene. When I first saw the movie I thought there would just be more after it. I thought Luke and Kylo would actually fight. I thought Kylo would lead troops into the base with the Resistance still there, Rey shows up and they have a rematch allowing the Resistance to leave. So when they don't fight and it turns out Luke wasn't "really" there it's almost like "WTF". But when you go back and watch again it, without those expectations of more to come, and just enjoy it then it really is a beautiful scene. From the visual of the 2 of them standing across, which is one of the great shots of the whole saga, to Luke's dialogue it really is great. And really it plays into so much of what Yoda told Luke in ESB. "Adventure, heh, excitement, heh, A Jedi does not crave these things" and also "your weapons, you will not need them." Luke got one over on Kylo by using the Force, rather than a lightsaber. The first time you see it, it really is hard to accept how they went about this but when you rewatch it and think about it, it really is the correct way. Also loved while Luke is walking out to face him the awed looks on the faces of the remaining Resistance fighters. Luke really is a legend to them and that's how they all envisioned him to be. How he should look, how he should act, how powerful he should be. The actual man could never live up to that legend, no man could, not even Luke Skywalker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I really need some art of Luke walking out of the base to plaster all over my walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 The fight against Snoke's guards had all the twirly-fighty action out of the way for us, so it was totally cool to have an old school samurai showdown at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robin Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 ANHESBR1 TFAROTJ TPMTLJROTSAOTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 The fight against Snoke's guards had all the twirly-fighty action out of the way for us, so it was totally cool to have an old school samurai showdown at the end. I agree, just saying the first time I saw it I expected a more traditional saber fight. I have no problem with what they did, in fact it's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1. Return of the Jedi 2. The Phantom Menace3. The Empire Strikes Back4. Rouge One5. Revenge of the Sith6. The Force Awakens7. A New Hope8. Attack of the Clones9. The Last Jedi My list changed a little last week after my marathon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 TPM over ESB? Your politics always confuse me, but now its clear youre an alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Since I'm for the wall I'd be a legal alien. We did this the last time we did one of these lists. Empire is the better movie, but I have more fun watching the Phantom Menace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Literally everything you say is a crime against my existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Lol. And I'm not even trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I love that "everything you just said is wrong" is now a Star Wars quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good God a Bear Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Empire Strikes BackRogue 1A New HopeReturn of the JediRevenge of the SithThe Force AwakensAttack of the ClonesThe Last JediThe Phantom Menace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I love that "everything you just said is wrong" is now a Star Wars quote.It will produce memes galore like Boromir's One Cannot Simply quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 EmpireA New HopeROTJWay up here TLJ and TFA (kind of interchangeable) Down here ROTSTPM Down here AOTC Rogue 1 doesn't get a vote cause it didn't really feel like Star Wars to me. Until Vader came out at the end in the tunnel. That was sick. But also its a side story and not part of the Saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue 3 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 My list changes from time to time, and has changed since the emotion of TFA settled. This is how I currently rank them: 1. TESB2. ANH (though, it technically ties with TESB, I am placing this at #2)3. ROTJ4. Rogue One5. TLJ (just barely edges out TFA. Overall they are pretty equal)6. TFA (actually ties with ROTS, also has fallen in ranking for me. Last time I ranked it as well as ROTJ) 7. ROTS (far and away the best of the PT. Barely edged out by ST films, due to handling of Anakin, and too much General Grievous....but there are sometimes I do rank it higher than the ST!)8. AOTC ( I always have trouble ranking these last 2. Sometimes I like AOTC better than TPM, and vice versa. Depends more on how I feel at the moment.9. TPM Totally agree with your list here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 & 6 years to go... Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 TESBROTSTFAANHR1ROTJAOTCTPM I haven't seen TLJ yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1. The OT2. Rogue One3. The ST4. The PT I love copping out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1. The OT2. Rogue One3. The ST4. The PT I love copping outAccurate AF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I watched all the movies fairly recently, don't know if I've ever done that before. Plus I've seen TLJ again and it's sank in more. So here is my new better than ever list!! 1-The Empire Strikes Back2-Star Wars3-The Last Jedi4-The Force Awakens5-Rogue One6-Return of the Jedi7-Revenge of the Sith8-Attack of the Clones9-The Phantom Menace Don't construe this as any kind of prequel bashing, I like all 9 movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 And before Tank bashes you for putting ROTJ under the prequels, there's a TV trope concept called Original Sin. It means that when a movie franchise or TV show goes bad, really bad, you can often find the precursors to that Badness in previous episodes. It just got overshadowed by the greatness of the beginning of the franchise. Looking back with the benefit of hindsight, and without the Rose Colored Glasses of nostalgia, so much of what we bitch about with the PT could find it's origins in ROTJ. I've come to the position that ROTJ really is little better than the PT, in other words, damned near unwatchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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