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Can the NSA keep secrets?


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Turns out something bigger than Snowden is/was happening as far as NSA secrets escaping. Snowden got four laptops out with descriptions of intelligence tools used by the NSA but the FBI states the actual tools were smuggled out.

 

 



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Are you asking if they are capable, or if its legal?
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I dont think they are capable but legality is an interesting issue. The Patriot Act was not something I endorse because of the doors it opened. But I still use my iPhone and google as well as not put tape over my webcam!

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Three posts in and I have no idea what this thread is about.
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Maybe Spam watched Snowden recently. 



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HA! I think it's more along the lines that there is actually a new NSA scandal about stolen secrets but also as we learn more about the 2016 campaign I wonder how much foreign powers are trying to get our secrets. 



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Foreign powers? Can the NSA keep you safe from domestic hacking!

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And forget computers. I'm convinced half the choppers in LA are just the rich folk spying on the common folk to get ideas for movie scripts and talk shows.

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And forget computers. I'm convinced half the choppers in LA are just the rich folk spying on the common folk to get ideas for movie scripts and talk shows.


That tracks with all the other stuff you believe.

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You know what else I believe? That all your negative reactions to what I say are not even fully genuine. I think you're a charicature of your ideal for for yourself. You're the equal opposite of one of those pastors who secretly gay or has a secret mixed race family who's at the forefront of anti-gay or white supremacist movements. I think you've said enough intelligent things to make me believe your ignorant reactions are actually bogus. That you're a left-wing thug smart enough to know better and a bad actor.

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Wow. Why does an answer have to be about Tank?

 

China has been trying for years to get at our secrets and Russia didn't just meddle in the US's election process.

 

In the end why would anyone want our secrets? We're probably the worst country in the world right now. The culture in DC right now probably makes it rife with people who work for the government that would sell out or "whistle blow" anyways.



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You know what else I believe? That all your negative reactions to what I say are not even fully genuine. I think you're a charicature of your ideal for for yourself. You're the equal opposite of one of those pastors who secretly gay or has a secret mixed race family who's at the forefront of anti-gay or white supremacist movements. I think you've said enough intelligent things to make me believe your ignorant reactions are actually bogus. That you're a left-wing thug smart enough to know better and a bad actor.

That tracks with all the other stuff you believe, too. 

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In the end why would anyone want our secrets? We're probably the worst country in the world right now. The culture in DC right now probably makes it rife with people who work for the government that would sell out or "whistle blow" anyways.

I'd imagine there's heaps of money to be made from knowing what's about to happen, not just in terms of foreign governments trying to keep ahead of the US, but also in the corporate world, ie. preparing for legislation by either lobbying against it before it becomes a public issue or changing things up in the company, knowing who's getting what contracts so they can be underbid, undermined or bought out, knowing who's on the outs with the government so efforts can be focused on more powerful individuals, etc.



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In the context of "NSA secrets," other countries want to know what tools the NSA uses to gather intelligence so that those countries can block the NSA from using those tools for gathering intelligence.


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