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Kathleen is one of the most successful producers out there considering she has all of Spielberg's hits under her belt. Lucas chose her because she was the right combination of business and creative.  

Even though I don’t/didn’t have a ton of faith in Trevorrow, I can’t help but think the major factor behind this is Carrie Fisher’s death. The movie he had been making (either in concept or actuality)

So what's the issue I wonder? Is it--   A. Kathleen Kennedy is impossible to work for?   or   B. These directors too fanboy to do quality work?   or   C. Some combination of the two?     So of t

So, they've had to can the directors in three separate movies already? Sheesh. At least Josh Trank can sleep knowing that it isn't all him now.

 

Not that Trevorrow getting tossed fills me with any sorrow. He was always a baffling choice. Here's hoping Rian Johnson just did such an awesome job that they asked him to come back and finish the trilogy.

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So what's the issue I wonder? Is it--

 

A. Kathleen Kennedy is impossible to work for?

 

or

 

B. These directors too fanboy to do quality work?

 

or

 

C. Some combination of the two?

 

 

So of the six SW films in production...

 

TFA replaced the original writer

R1 needed a new writer/director to do reshoots

TLJ seems to be no problem

The Han Solo film lost its directors in production

Episode IX has lost it's writer/director

Whatever movie Josh Trank was going to make was cancelled (supposedly a Boba Fett film)

 

The production track record is not good. That said, the two movies we've seen so far (TFA and R1) were great, and TLJ looks to be good, (no way to know for sure yet).

 

I can't imagine the pressure Kennedy is under to deliver these films. I think she knows what she is doing but maybe it was a mistake to hire these young auteurs who all basically wrote and directed an indie hit, then jumped to something big. With the exception of Abrams, (who delivered) none of them have worked on movies this big-- movies that have so many interested parties that you literally have to face a committee to get things approved.

 

Abrams knows that system. As does Ron Howard. I like they wanted to use younger voices, but I just don't know they could hack it. I think Kennedy is running the company the right way, but maybe she mad some bad picks.

 

Dealing with Fisher's absence probably didn't make it any easier.

 

In short-- OKAY I'LL DO IT KATHY

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I can't imagine the pressure Kennedy is under to deliver these films. I think she knows what she is doing but maybe it was a mistake to hire these young auteurs who all basically wrote and directed an indie hit, then jumped to something big.

 

Kevin Feige doesn't seem to have this problem.

 

Aside from Kenneth Branagh (arguably), Trevorrow has had more experience than any of the Marvel directors when it comes to directing a mega-budget franchise film. I figured that's how he got hired in the first place. He made bank with an old franchise tickling people's nostalgia so they handed him the reins despite Jurassic World not being particularly impressive on the merits.

 

They didn't think he was some genius director, they thought this was a guy they could work with to keep the train moving.

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TFA feels too much like a crap reboot to me, rather than a sequel. R1 was the SW movie we'd been waiting for, but given that there were extensive reshoots, I somehow doubt they'll ask Edwards to come back to direct IX. I hope they do, but then again, Rogue One worked because of the nostalgia feels of seeing OT stormies, X-wings and Vader on the big screen again; I'm not sure he'd deliver again on an ST movie.

 

The biggest question is, will they bring in another solid choice like Ron Howard again? Or will they go with another indie-style director with a hit or two under their belt? Maybe even one of the current crop of superhero directors, like Taika Waititi or James Wan?

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He makes the most sense: they're obviously happy with him (he wasn't fired) and it's pretty much his story now. If Kennedy wasn't happy with Trevorrow over the story, it's likely because it didn't jibe with Johnson's Ep VIII. So if CT is out, RJ is in....unless he has something else he wants to do.

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I can't imagine the pressure Kennedy is under to deliver these films. I think she knows what she is doing but maybe it was a mistake to hire these young auteurs who all basically wrote and directed an indie hit, then jumped to something big.

Kevin Feige doesn't seem to have this problem.

 

Aside from Kenneth Branagh (arguably), Trevorrow has had more experience than any of the Marvel directors when it comes to directing a mega-budget franchise film. I figured that's how he got hired in the first place. He made bank with an old franchise tickling people's nostalgia so they handed him the reins despite Jurassic World not being particularly impressive on the merits.

 

They didn't think he was some genius director, they thought this was a guy they could work with to keep the train moving.

 

That's a great point actually. I know Marvel's process is to have first drafts written with their in house script-farm program, which they then shop to potential writers/directors to make it their own. That is, when they aren't just improving and wining it or handing it to a bigger name like Whedon.

 

But Whedon to Avengers is pretty much the same as Abrams to TFA. Who else was going to do it?

 

 

Tank you've got some crazy ideas when it comes to JJ delivering a great movie.

 

I did a poll in my office and most people think TFA was **** because it was essentially a nostalgic rehash and added nothing to the saga.

Moot point. They made a conscious decision to rekindle the franchise by doing what was familiar. This is what Lucasfilm and Disney were pitched, it was what they agreed on, and it was what Abrams delivered.

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So what's the issue I wonder? Is it--

 

A. Kathleen Kennedy is impossible to work for?

 

or

 

B. These directors too fanboy to do quality work?

 

or

 

C. Some combination of the two?

 

 

So of the six SW films in production...

 

TFA replaced the original writer

R1 needed a new writer/director to do reshoots

TLJ seems to be no problem

The Han Solo film lost its directors in production

Episode IX has lost it's writer/director

Whatever movie Josh Trank was going to make was cancelled (supposedly a Boba Fett film)

 

The production track record is not good. That said, the two movies we've seen so far (TFA and R1) were great, and TLJ looks to be good, (no way to know for sure yet).

 

I can't imagine the pressure Kennedy is under to deliver these films. I think she knows what she is doing but maybe it was a mistake to hire these young auteurs who all basically wrote and directed an indie hit, then jumped to something big. With the exception of Abrams, (who delivered) none of them have worked on movies this big-- movies that have so many interested parties that you literally have to face a committee to get things approved.

 

Abrams knows that system. As does Ron Howard. I like they wanted to use younger voices, but I just don't know they could hack it. I think Kennedy is running the company the right way, but maybe she mad some bad picks.

 

Dealing with Fisher's absence probably didn't make it any easier.

 

In short-- OKAY I'LL DO IT KATHY

I pick option B. Kennedy's resume speaks for itself. I give her the benefit of the doubt. I think what's happening is these young guys are coming in thinking they have creative license to make their movie, everyone else be damned. To your point a franchise like this needs veterans who know their way around Hollywood and want to make the best film possible within the parameters set by their boss. Abrams and Howard give off that vibe. They remind me of Kershner in the way he handled a production of this scale and the pressure it brings. The young guys are not so much fanboys but seem to be more looking to make their mark and want to treat it like another indie film with a bigger budget. What I wonder is, if Gilroy is brought in to do reshoots and finish off R1 to Lucasfilm's liking, why not give someone like him the keys from the start?
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They need to hurry up and announce a new director for those of us who desperately had to base our entire Ep IX prejudgment on Trevorrow's hiring. His removal now leaves my clairvoyant thumbs-down in a total awkward limbo.

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