Guest Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I was asking you, since in a thread about the MCU, discussing the number of origin stories in the MCU, you said: I just think it's too bad origin stories were overused on characters that didn't really need them, to the point that the more obscure characters won't be getting them in the same detail.And there also is no proof, or even remote reason to believe, that Marvel will back off on origin stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Perhaps not, but they managed to just drop Black Panther into CA:CW without much more than, "Oh, he's from Wakanda". And it's not unlikely that the writers, directors and producers of these MCU films are themselves tired of the same story-telling formats by this point. Ant-Man didn't really get, or need, an origin story. It's just tech, like the IM suits. I would not be surprised if Captain Marvel isn't just introduced as simply being superpowered, never mind how and why. It'd be more important, from a continuity point of view, to explain why she's not been active (at least overtly) on Earth since the Avengers formed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I would say that Ant-Man had an origin story every bit as much as Captain America did. Both involved someone else creating the method of achieving power, but the origin story is of the superhero and not the technology. As for origin stories: three superheroes haven't gotten some type of origin story: Hulk, Black Panther and Spider-Man. Six have, including one right before Black Panther was introduced and one after. I've included Guardians as an origin story because it introduces the characters and serves as an origin of the Guardians of the Galaxy. So, based on my figures, 1/3 of characters haven't gotten origin stories and two are incredibly well known and had origin story films in the recent past before being introduced in the MCU. I would say that Marvel is still very much into origin stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 Well, Spider-Man and Hulk both had previous movies that while not part of continuity, still made them known to mass audiences. Also, it could be argued that classically, Spidey and Hulk were the two most well-known characters going in. I bet that Black Panther at least has a flashback or opening scene to establish the history of the Panther. I'm curious to see how they explain his powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 of what I've seen... I guess really these movies just fall into two camps for me: 'Cool'...Captain America: Winter SoldierGuardians of the GalaxyCaptain America: Civil WarAge of UltronAvengersIron Man ...and 'Just Alright'...Iron Man 3Black PantherDoctor StrangeGuardians of the Galaxy 2Captain America: First AvengerIron Man 2ThorAnt-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Iceman Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1. Captain America: The First Avenger2. Captain America: Civil War3. Captain America: Winter Soldier4. Ant-Man5. The Avengers6. Guardians of the Galaxy7. Doctor Strange8. Iron Man9. Avengers: Age of Ultron10. Iron Man 311. Thor12. Iron Man 213. Thor: The Dark World14. Incredible Hulk I haven't seen GotG Vol. 2 and Spider-Man: Homecoming yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Ray Kenobi Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I've gotta let it settle in, but I feel like Thor Ragnarok is in at least the top five for me now. That was the most batshit and badass thing I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 My new rankings: Thor Ragnarok >>>>> everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sockimus Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1. Captain America: Civil War2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier3. Thor: Ragnarok4. Spider-Man: Homecoming5. Iron Man6. Captain America: The First Avenger7. Ant-Man8. Doctor Strange9. Guardians of the Galaxy10. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 211. Iron Man 312. Thor13. Avengers: Age of Ultron14. The Avengers15. Iron Man 216. Thor: The Dark World17. The Incredible Hulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Revised: 1. Captain America: Civil War2. Captain America: Winter Soldier3. Iron Man4. Spider-Man: Homecoming5. Thor: Ragnarok6. Guardians of the Galaxy 7. Avengers8. Ant-Man9. Captain America: First Avenger10. Incredible Hulk11. Doctor Strange 12. Thor13. Iron Man 314. Thor: Dark World 15. Age of Ultron16. Guardians of the Galaxy 217. Iron Man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Ray Kenobi Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 My ranking for anything like this changes all the time, but this is how I'd put it today:1. Guardians of the Galaxy2. Iron Man 13. Thor: Ragnarok4. Avengers 15. Spider-man: Homecoming6. Doctor Strange7. Captain America: Winter Soldier8. Guardians Vol. 29. Captain America: First Avenger10. Ant-Man11. Thor 112. Iron Man 313. Captain America: Civil War14. Thor: Dark World15. Avengers: Age of Ultron16. Iron Man 217. Incredible Hulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robin Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Side Note: In the next Avengers, I kinda want to see Tony Stark look at New Doug and then call him White Fury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Im incapable of ranking. I can separate them into tiers, thats the best I can do But I dont wanna. I just wanna post this quote I stole from /co/ which sums up how I feel about Avengers 4: All I want is a sequence only a few minutes long in Avengers 4 when Chitauri or whatever Thanos minions are all over Earth and there's a montage of the Defenders fighting them in NY, the Inhumans fighting them in Hawaii, the Runaways fighting them in LA, the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. cast fighting them wherever, Cloak and Dagger fighting them in New Orleans and the New Warriors fighting them in Milwaukee while Captain America gives a voice over speech about the reliance of the human spirit and how we'll always fight to the end as he stands up to Thanos about to kill him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I don’t understand the desire to see TV characters in the films. The films are brimming with characters already. Besides, if any of the Defensers actors had been on set in character, wouldn’t that information have leaked? Are the filming schedules even compatible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Just as cameos, thats all I want to see. A few second long action scene is all. Im pretty sure it wont happen anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Here's my revised ranking after seeing Homecoming and GOTG Vol.2. 1. Captain America: The First Avenger2. Captain America: Civil War3. Captain America: Winter Soldier4. Spider-Man: Homecoming 5. The Avengers6. Guardians of the Galaxy7. Ant-Man8. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 29. Doctor Strange10. Iron Man11. Avengers: Age of Ultron12. Iron Man 313. Thor14. Iron Man 215. Thor: The Dark World16. Incredible Hulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 It's time to change this thing up because Black Panther(for all the right reasons, not the woke, sjw, can I just please enjoy a movie for being a good movie) is a damn good movie. Wakanda forever baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 1. The Avengers2. Captain America: Winter Soldier3. Iron Man4. Guardians of the Galaxy5. Black Panther6. Captain America: Civil War7. Spider-Man: Homecoming8. Thor: Ragnarok9. Ant-Man10. Thor11. Captain America: The First Avenger12. Iron Man 213. Thor: The Dark World14. Avengers: Age of Ultron15. Incredible Hulk16. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 217. Iron Man 318. Doctor Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 It's time to change this thing up because Black Panther(for all the right reasons, not the woke, sjw, can I just please enjoy a movie for being a good movie) is a damn good movie. Wakanda forever baby!Why can't it be both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 It can and should be. Unfortunately it's not happening organically. As with most things today it's being hijacked to forward certain views. This is a good movie that should stand on its own merits. Just to clarify when I say "should" I'm talking about Black Panther being a character that blacks can look at with pride. I'm talking about the message of the movie not being one about isolationism of culture, but the benefits of becoming more inclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robin Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 So what youre saying is Black Panther is a good film which organically supported social issues because they are woven into the character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Well, Spider-Man and Hulk both had previous movies that while not part of continuity, still made them known to mass audiences. Also, it could be argued that classically, Spidey and Hulk were the two most well-known characters going in. I bet that Black Panther at least has a flashback or opening scene to establish the history of the Panther. I'm curious to see how they explain his powers. TEN POINTS FOR ME. Re-revised: 1. Captain America: Civil War 2. Captain America: Winter Soldier 3. Iron Man 4. Spider-Man: Homecoming 5. Thor: Ragnarok 6. Black Panther 7. Guardians of the Galaxy 8. Avengers 9. Ant-Man 10. Captain America: First Avenger 11. Incredible Hulk 12. Doctor Strange 13. Thor 14. Iron Man 3 15. Thor: Dark World 16. Age of Ultron 17. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 18. Iron Man 2 Top tier-- the MCU best, second tier, good movies, essential viewing for completion, third tier-- average, could be skipped, bottom tier-- poop movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 This is a bit off topic but its funny to me to see there are 18 Marvel movies with 3 coming every single year. People talk about "super hero" fatigue. I've read articles about it a few times, but is there any evidence that it's true? I mean Black Panther and Infinity War are getting released less than 3 months apart and they will make a combined what? 3 Billion bucks worldwide? 2.5 billon? Something like that. What's more amazing is that the first movie in each characters story are all the same (I haven;t seen Panther yet so it could be an exception) but they all follow a storyline wherein the hero fights someone with the same or very similar powers. Iron Man fights another guy in a suit. Hulk fights another Hulk basically. Cap fights another guy who took a similar syrum. Thor fights another God. Ant Man fights another guy in an ant suit. It's the same thing over over. Yet people just keep going to see them. It;s really crazy how Marvel has been able to do this. What I said in the previous paragraph isn't a knock. It's just amazing how they do this. Everyone keeps saying super hero fatigue will set in but there is zero evidence of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 The sad truth is, "fatigue" is something that only happens to people with discerning taste and judgements. The masses do not possess these things. People like all of us, who have been into some aspect of geek culture for decades-- we'll see the fatigue. I've been seeing it for at least 5 years. But the average person who wants to drop $20 on a Friday night to see some explosions, hear a few good one-liners, and watch bad guys get beat-- they'll be lining up forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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