Driver Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 But it is consistent if doing your own thing led to misery and you think you screwed up and you're depressed AF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 You're kind of taking my point where I don't want it to go. It's not about adhering to dogma. I just don't think he would 1: have the time for a relationship and kids because he's too busy being a Jedi and 2: he wouldn't be interested as it's going to distract him from his path. Focus and all that. And 3, heroes have to sacrifice something at some point. He hasn't sacrificed anything yet. He's done the humble origins thing, and he lost his father, but that is all circumstantial. He hasn't made a conscious sacrifice yet. Unless of course his daughter is Rey and he sacrificed his relationship with her to protect her... Then I guess that would work.... But still.. Family man Luke? Not into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 So for him to go meditate alone to become the greatest Jedi would be a departure from the Luke that we've seen so far. That may be what happens, but I agree with Fozzie, it's not consistent with what we know of him.But that IS what happened. So like it or not it is consistent with what we know of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 So for him to go meditate alone to become the greatest Jedi would be a departure from the Luke that we've seen so far. That may be what happens, but I agree with Fozzie, it's not consistent with what we know of him.But that IS what happened. So like it or not it is consistent with what we know of him.It is? Astonishing. How did you manage to see the Luke Skywalker stand alone film and novelization before it's been written yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filthy Jawa Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 But that IS what happened. So like it or not it is consistent with what we know of him.I think you're assuming that's what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Well call it going into exhile or going alone to meditate, it's pretty much what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SATDIAL Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Hi guys, I read you from time to time...It´s always a pleasure. Is there a discussion thread about the teaser trailer? Can`t seem to find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Well call it going into exhile or going alone to meditate, it's pretty much what happenedActually, we have 0 idea what's going on. The only thing that is suggested is that he was searching for the first Jedi temple. He could have been meditating, he could have been in exile, he could have just wanted some peace and quiet to rub a few out using the Force. We have no clue what the motivation was for him, other than the fact that he was gone and there's a quote that could be completely out of context about the Jedi needing to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 ...rub a few out using the force? In other words force-choking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 the chicken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Rian Johnson has said that the very first thing he thought about when starting to write was to come up with a good reason for Luke to go into exile or hiding or whatever. A reason that wouldn't simply be him running away and hiding. Now this doesn't mean that the reason he came up with is going to work or be good, but there does seem like there will be some reason for him being on that island outside of him running away when things went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I'm glad he's thinking these things through. But shouldn't this have been thought about by the writers of the previous film who stuck him on that island in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 No, I don't think that has to be the case. I mean if you are going to let Rian Johnson write the movie then you have to let him write the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Plus, there was never an attempt to explain it. The explanation was that nobody knows. But it seemed like Han had an idea, and it wasn't Luke running away and hiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Well of course the characters don't know so neither do we as the audience. But I would've thought the creators would. It just surprises me that the trilogy doesn't seem to be planned out as much as I figured it would. I get not having every plot point all set or changes needing to be made (such as for Fisher's passing.) But for something like this. Let's have Luke hiding on an island where no one knows where he is. Cool! Why is he there? I don't know. We'll let the next guy figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Why should this be more planned than the other trilogies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I think the idea was that he did go for a reason, to find the Temple and seek out some kind of knowledge. The exact reasoning behind what he found when he got there was left for the next guy. Gotta leave some meat on the bone for Johnson or else just have JJ and Kasdan write VIII and hire a director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Why should this be more planned than the other trilogies?Rian Johnson answered that question for me. Gotta leave some meat on the bone for Johnson or else just have JJ and Kasdan write VIII and hire a director.Yes, please, get rid if Abrams completely. He made Han a deadbeat. Johnson told Abrams to change the ending to TFA and wants to make sure Luke doesn't look like a coward. I like where his head is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 My money's on nothings there. Sure there'll be some jedi book, but no deep knowledge that the audience can take away. How much deeper can star wars get. If they got knowledge about what's bigger than the balance between light and dark I'm sure the real world would like to know. Personally I think it's all just a set up to say Luke has been honing his skills and can now blow shit up with his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Why should this be more planned than the other trilogies?Rian Johnson answered that question for me. Gotta leave some meat on the bone for Johnson or else just have JJ and Kasdan write VIII and hire a director.Yes, please, get rid if Abrams completely. He made Han a deadbeat. Johnson told Abrams to change the ending to TFA and wants to make sure Luke doesn't look like a coward. I like where his head is at. He asked him to change which droid went with Rey to find Luke, not exactly some major change from what JJ was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I do think it is. He asked for the change because it provides two of the original trilogy heroes to move to the center of TLJ. Plus it harkens back to ESB with R2 being the only companion Luke had through most of the film. This is why I said I like where Johnson's head is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryn Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Heck of way to have Johnson write them out of a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think this was because he decided to make Rey's vision of the Knights of Ren one of the future, not the past, and R2 was there for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I think it's more simply that BB8 is more fun to watch run around than R2 and he wanted him involved in the action part of the movie with Poe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 You guys are all over thinking this. He did that simply to give Luke back his sex droid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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