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[tl;dr] It is very worrying to me that you have two warring factions in the American polity, and neither of them seem to give a rat's arse about democratic norms, values and conventions. And this war is being waged both on and over social media monopolies, which also aren't good for democratic norms.

First, the easier case. Trump's behavior, especially since losing the election, should be absolutely disqualifying for anybody who lives in a liberal democracy. While I have never believed him to be fit for political office, that should now be painfully obvious to anybody who casts a vote. There are always salty losers, and allegations of stolen elections in any election that was not an absolute landslide for one side have been a thing now since 2000.

There have been court cases. There have been recounts. So Trump's claims of voting irregularities have been duly investigated. And as well they should have been. It just turns out that Trump was wrong, and now he and his followers are chalking it all up to a massive conspiracy. That therefore makes the antics that took place on January 6th not only acceptable but necessary. At least in their bizzarre and paranoid minds.

Trump has phoned State Governors and Attorneys General and simply asked them to cough up the votes needed to flip the state for him. He is abusing the leverage that comes with his political office to insist that Republican members of Congress and even his own vice president get on his absurd bandwagon, and his kooky followers are threatening with violence those GOP politicians who did not comply. What the hell do those lunatics think this is? Every damn one of them needs to face very stern justice because of this. I'm glad there has been a lot of clamoring for a very no-nonsense response to it all.

When you lose an election fair and square, doing anything other than immediately conceding and aiding in a peaceful transition is the kind of thing that you would expect to see in a banana republic. But then, from the outside looking in, America certainly looks to have been heading in that direction for a while now.

Suffice it to say, the sight of some lunatic in a horned helmet and furs running around inside of the Capitol building should put to rest any question of whether America can be compared to Rome. History really does repeat. First time as tragedy, second time as farce.

On the other hand, it is bizarre to me the supposed progressive people rush to this social media platforms can  deplatform whoever they want line of reasoning so quickly. I wonder if they really believe it, or is it just a matter of political expediency? In fact, I don't wonder that at all. Were the shoe on the other foot - as it was when the Christian right pressured book and music retailers into dropping heavy metal music albums and Harry Potter novels - the tune would be and indeed was very different.

The right of private businesses and to deal with or not whomever they wish has been a thing that civil rights activists have been pushing against for a very long time now. And no doubt for the best. Nobody had a problem forcing private bakeries to bake cakes for LGBT couples, for instance, when the ownership of said the bakeries were evangelical fruitcakes (no pun intended). Indeed, if "liberal" people really believe that it is up to Twitter to decide who does and doesn't get deplatformed, they would not apply pressure to the platform to suspend people who they do not like.

I am not saying that there isn't a time and a place to remove people from social media platforms. I am not actually a free-speech absolutist. But let's be honest here. Progressives want conservative removed from social media and other platforms because they don't like what conservatives are saying. They have convinced themselves, within their own echo chambers that are not any less air tight than those of the Qanon crowd, that any deviation from the sacred dogma of critical race theory amounts to nothing more then advocacy of full-on racial genocide. With this kind of a one minute to midnight mindset, who has time to entertain the regular politics of give and take and debate? The thing to do then is to go out and burn your cities to the ground. And fire from their jobs media pundits who suggest that this might not be such a good idea.

We should not, however, assume that the right-wingers are now the real champions of free speech. These are the same people who make memes celebrating Operation Condor. This was when military juntas in Central and South America persecuted leftists by throwing them out of helicopters. Do these people sound like civil libertarians to you? 


I think we should all get a bit of a chuckle out of a group of people who believe in the free market above all now clamouring for government intervention to regulate the tech sector, because they are losing the culture War.  But they also do make a point. Stopped clocks and all that. We should be worried about concentration and monopoly in social media. Especially if the social media platforms are going to outrightly become partisan players in our political processes and dialogues. Conservatives are right to be aggrieved by this, just as progressives would be right to be were the shoe on the other foot.

Besides, I have no doubt that the tech trusts won't have a problem deplatforming leftists also, once it becomes expedient for them to do so. Given their class interests, I would say that is a matter of when, not if.

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[tl;dr] It is very worrying to me that you have two warring factions in the American polity, and neither of them seem to give a rat's arse about democratic norms, values and conventions. And this war is being waged both on and over social media monopolies, which also aren't good for democratic norms.

First, the easier case. Trump's behavior, especially since losing the election, should be absolutely disqualifying for anybody who lives in a liberal democracy. While I have never believed him to be fit for political office, that should now be painfully obvious to anybody who casts a vote. There are always salty losers, and allegations of stolen elections in any election that was not an absolute landslide for one side have been a thing now since 2000.

There have been court cases. There have been recounts. So Trump's claims of voting irregularities have been duly investigated. And as well they should have been. It just turns out that Trump was wrong, and now he and his followers are chalking it all up to a massive conspiracy. That therefore makes the antics that took place on January 6th not only acceptable but necessary. At least in their bizzarre and paranoid minds.

Trump has phoned State Governors and Attorneys General and simply asked them to cough up the votes needed to flip the state for him. He is abusing the leverage that comes with his political office to insist that Republican members of Congress and even his own vice president get on his absurd bandwagon, and his kooky followers are threatening with violence those GOP politicians who did not comply. What the hell do those lunatics think this is? Every damn one of them needs to face very stern justice because of this. I'm glad there has been a lot of clamoring for a very no-nonsense response to it all.

When you lose an election fair and square, doing anything other than immediately conceding and aiding in a peaceful transition is the kind of thing that you would expect to see in a banana republic. But then, from the outside looking in, America certainly looks to have been heading in that direction for a while now.

Suffice it to say, the sight of some lunatic in a horned helmet and furs running around inside of the Capitol building should put to rest any question of whether America can be compared to Rome. History really does repeat. First time as tragedy, second time as farce.

On the other hand, it is bizarre to me the supposed progressive people rush to this social media platforms can  deplatform whoever they want line of reasoning so quickly. I wonder if they really believe it, or is it just a matter of political expediency? In fact, I don't wonder that at all. Were the shoe on the other foot - as it was when the Christian right pressured book and music retailers into dropping heavy metal music albums and Harry Potter novels - the tune would be and indeed was very different.

The right of private businesses and to deal with or not whomever they wish has been a thing that civil rights activists have been pushing against for a very long time now. And no doubt for the best. Nobody had a problem forcing private bakeries to bake cakes for LGBT couples, for instance, when the ownership of said the bakeries were evangelical fruitcakes (no pun intended). Indeed, if "liberal" people really believe that it is up to Twitter to decide who does and doesn't get deplatformed, they would not apply pressure to the platform to suspend people who they do not like.

I am not saying that there isn't a time and a place to remove people from social media platforms. I am not actually a free-speech absolutist. But let's be honest here. Progressives want conservative removed from social media and other platforms because they don't like what conservatives are saying. They have convinced themselves, within their own echo chambers that are not any less air tight than those of the Qanon crowd, that any deviation from the sacred dogma of critical race theory amounts to nothing more then advocacy of full-on racial genocide. With this kind of a one minute to midnight mindset, who has time to entertain the regular politics of give and take and debate? The thing to do then is to go out and burn your cities to the ground. And fire from their jobs media pundits who suggest that this might not be such a good idea.

We should not, however, assume that the right-wingers are now the real champions of free speech. These are the same people who make memes celebrating Operation Condor. This was when military juntas in Central and South America persecuted leftists by throwing them out of helicopters. Do these people sound like civil libertarians to you? 


I think we should all get a bit of a chuckle out of a group of people who believe in the free market above all now clamouring for government intervention to regulate the tech sector, because they are losing the culture War.  But they also do make a point. Stopped clocks and all that. We should be worried about concentration and monopoly in social media. Especially if the social media platforms are going to outrightly become partisan players in our political processes and dialogues. Conservatives are right to be aggrieved by this, just as progressives would be right to be were the shoe on the other foot.

Besides, I have no doubt that the tech trusts won't have a problem deplatforming leftists also, once it becomes expedient for them to do so. Given their class interests, I would say that is a matter of when, not if.

I don’t fit into any clean US political boxes. I’m not a liberal, but I’m certainly also not a conservative. In fact, my political leanings fall directly within Catholic social teaching - a teaching that, sadly, most Catholics don’t understand, or follow.

Having said that, I agree with politicians on both sides who have found that Big Tech is dangerous and the companies are monopolies - while the Republicans are crying about deplatforming, these issues have bipartisan agreement. The media just isn’t covering it well. 
As of today, however, the companies do have the right to not to do business with people who violate their terms, and Trump and Parler have done so. Amazon gave Parler two months warning to do something about death threats. All they had to do was show they had some type of cursory moderation system, but instead they gave Amazon the middle finger. It wasn’t a surprise thing at all. And we’re not just talking about speech that liberals dislike, we’re talking credible threats being shared and grown via Parler.

Big Tech is a problem, but Republican violence is a more urgent manner, since they actually stormed the Capitol and wanted to murder people. Ending the ability of terrorists to communicate is a major method of fighting terrorism, and since the government refuses to do anything about it and the police are part of the problem, I’m glad someone is taking some steps to save lives, even if they aren’t the Good Guys.

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