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It appears the demographics are changing. It still doesn't explain why polygamy remains illegal.

 

It won't remain illegal for long. It is fun to beat Mormons over the head with it, but liberals don't care who you marry, why should they care about the quantity. Consequences be damned.

 

As for the hypotheticals, I've posed several situations to you that were only "hypothetical" because I switched the players in an attempt to get you to view the situation without bias. You don't want to view the situation without bias. All the things we see as major problems you label conspiracy theories. Doesn't matter who takes the fifth and leaves office to a nice cushy job working for a big donor, there won't be any real investigations of the justice department, FBI, IRS, CIA, NSA,etc. despite mounds of evidence that corruption exists.

 

We only care about tearing the country to pieces for years to investigate something we all ****ing know didn't happen. They set up every damned part of this whole "Russia" story from the beginning. Anyone who can't see that is drinking the cool-aide or ****ing retarded. They set up the meeting with the Russian lawyer to entrap JR, and met with her before and after the meeting. Then they used his meeting with her, in which everyone agrees nothing happened, as evidence of some supposed conspiracy. The conspiracy lies in the fact that every Russian the Trump campaign met with was here under an FBI visa as an informant to entrap the Trump campaign, and every one of those meetings was instigated by said informant.

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"Do you feel like addressing why a singer has the option and a baker would not?"

 

Not at this time. I prefer to stick to what's already happened rather than explore the hypotheticals.

 

"Is there any basis for doubt?"

 

Yes. I still don't see how baking a cake is equal to participating in gay sex.

 

"... you tread in dangerous and perilous waters by telling other people what does or doesnt go against their principles. Simply, there is not a damn rational basis for you to tell other people what they believe is against their principles."

 

There is in this case. The baker claims is goes against his Christian principles to bake this cake. The Bible is where those principles are enumerated and I've never seen a word about not baking a cake for a gay wedding reception in any version of any bible I read. I'd think any Christian would consider the bible a 'damn rational basis', wouldn't you?

 

'You don't believe there is a single religion being practiced in the country which includes prohibitions on profiting from a ceremony celebrating and endorsing a practice that the religion believes to be a sin?"

 

I've asked you nicely to not twist my words, Timmy and here we are AGAIN...I don't believe there is an organized religion in this country that declares the baking of a cake for a reception to be a sin. Baking a cake is not endorsing a practice.

 

"what evidence exists today to support your inference polygamy remains illegal because of a desire to discriminate against Mormons"

 

Let's see-it's illegal and it's practiced almost entirely by Mormons....Ease of division of property? SERIOUSLY? THIS is why you think polygamy is still illegal?

 

"Ok, so, in my example....'

 

 

yeah, going to stick to real-life here again, thanks.

There is in this case. The baker claims is goes against his Christian principles to bake this cake. The Bible is where those principles are enumerated and I've never seen a word about not baking a cake for a gay wedding reception in any version of any bible I read. I'd think any Christian would consider the bible a 'damn rational basis', wouldn't you?

Thats your opinion and belief. He has a different opinion and belief. All you have to impugn the integrity of Phillips claims is just your opinion, your own belief. That amounts to nothing more than dictating to him your own personal beliefs of the Bible. Theres no rational basis for your own belief of the Bible to be superior to Phillips. None.

 

Let's see-it's illegal and it's practiced almost entirely by Mormons....Ease of division of property? SERIOUSLY? THIS is why you think polygamy is still illegal?

Poor argument. The use of horse drawn buggies as the primary mode of transportation is practiced almost entirely by the Amish but that hardly makes todays laws keeping them off of highways as discrimination against the Amish. So, the fact polygamyis practices almost entirely by Mormons isnt persuasive the laws prohibiting the practice is targeting Mormons for discrimination. Your logic leads to the conclusion traffic laws are targeting the Amish.

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The Trump Clown Car is the gift that keeps on giving. Today Guiliani was on some showing saying "truth isn't truth".

He was making a legit point about how telling the truth under oath doesn't always stop the prosecutor from charging a person with perjury because the prosecutor may have his own version of the truth. I'm pretty sure the Trump folks know that Mueller won't be able to touch him based on what he has now. But once Trump goes under oath, conflicting stories or just plain faulty memories could suddenly put impeachment on the table.

 

Really, I came out of it more shaking my head at the unprofessional way that Chuck Todd received it.

 

Also, Trump needs to stop sending out Giuliani. I'm seeing a guy who used to be able to think quickly on his feet getting to an age where he's easily flustered and his words aren't as precise as they once were. Giuliani's a good guy, and is probably still an asset for the team when it comes to instincts and strategy, but it's sad because he's making a lot of errors he wouldn't have not long ago.

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But if Trump doesn't get rid of Guiliani it won't be as fun. I watched part of it before I went out for the day.

 

Honestly - I don't believe Trump does actually anything as President but stump for his "party" with the same rabid talk and golf. The rest is just hot mess run by what doesn't quit or get fired or resign. It'll come out like Reagan that he had some debilitating mental disease.

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When this all came up months ago most legal experts said this constitutes campaign finance violations. While it doesn't look good such violations carry a fine. If there isn't something more nefarious going on here I don't get the rumblings of impeachment. Especially considering Obama broke campaign finance laws as well. Is this really the sword the Democrats want to fall on?

 

For full disclosure, I always thought Trump was guilty of this. I would have been surprised if he wasn't guilty of sleeping with those women.

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When this all came up months ago most legal experts said this constitutes campaign finance violations. While it doesn't look good such violations carry a fine. If there isn't something more nefarious going on here I don't get the rumblings of impeachment. Especially considering Obama broke campaign finance laws as well. Is this really the sword the Democrats want to fall on?

I haven't seen any signs of real talk about impeachment. Maybe a few on the fringe, but the majority know it isn't happening. Doesn't stop the media, though, because they're selling whatever people are buying, and talk of impeachment gets viewers and clicks.

 

For full disclosure, I always thought Trump was guilty of this. I would have been surprised if he wasn't guilty of sleeping with those women.

Most of the time I would think it was gross if a president slept with a porn star. With Trump, I find it the opposite.

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Most of the time I would think it was gross if a president slept with a porn star. With Trump, I find it the opposite.

Lol.

 

You want gross? Monica Lewinsky was actually one of the better looking women that Clinton bedded/assualted.

I think it's gross cause Clinton is a bulbous nosed, white haired old coot.

 

It's gross cause Trump looks like a fat, dribbling, jowly, anthropomorphic ginger pig.

 

If anything it's the calibre of the men in question that make these cases of infidelity physically repugnant.

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