Marc DuQuesne Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 It appears the demographics are changing. It still doesn't explain why polygamy remains illegal. It won't remain illegal for long. It is fun to beat Mormons over the head with it, but liberals don't care who you marry, why should they care about the quantity. Consequences be damned. As for the hypotheticals, I've posed several situations to you that were only "hypothetical" because I switched the players in an attempt to get you to view the situation without bias. You don't want to view the situation without bias. All the things we see as major problems you label conspiracy theories. Doesn't matter who takes the fifth and leaves office to a nice cushy job working for a big donor, there won't be any real investigations of the justice department, FBI, IRS, CIA, NSA,etc. despite mounds of evidence that corruption exists. We only care about tearing the country to pieces for years to investigate something we all ****ing know didn't happen. They set up every damned part of this whole "Russia" story from the beginning. Anyone who can't see that is drinking the cool-aide or ****ing retarded. They set up the meeting with the Russian lawyer to entrap JR, and met with her before and after the meeting. Then they used his meeting with her, in which everyone agrees nothing happened, as evidence of some supposed conspiracy. The conspiracy lies in the fact that every Russian the Trump campaign met with was here under an FBI visa as an informant to entrap the Trump campaign, and every one of those meetings was instigated by said informant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I have it on good authority that monkeygirl has wonderful parties with both monkeys and girls. And cats. Unfortunately logic is never invited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Madison Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 "Do you feel like addressing why a singer has the option and a baker would not?" Not at this time. I prefer to stick to what's already happened rather than explore the hypotheticals. "Is there any basis for doubt?" Yes. I still don't see how baking a cake is equal to participating in gay sex. "... you tread in dangerous and perilous waters by telling other people what does or doesnt go against their principles. Simply, there is not a damn rational basis for you to tell other people what they believe is against their principles." There is in this case. The baker claims is goes against his Christian principles to bake this cake. The Bible is where those principles are enumerated and I've never seen a word about not baking a cake for a gay wedding reception in any version of any bible I read. I'd think any Christian would consider the bible a 'damn rational basis', wouldn't you? 'You don't believe there is a single religion being practiced in the country which includes prohibitions on profiting from a ceremony celebrating and endorsing a practice that the religion believes to be a sin?" I've asked you nicely to not twist my words, Timmy and here we are AGAIN...I don't believe there is an organized religion in this country that declares the baking of a cake for a reception to be a sin. Baking a cake is not endorsing a practice. "what evidence exists today to support your inference polygamy remains illegal because of a desire to discriminate against Mormons" Let's see-it's illegal and it's practiced almost entirely by Mormons....Ease of division of property? SERIOUSLY? THIS is why you think polygamy is still illegal? "Ok, so, in my example....' yeah, going to stick to real-life here again, thanks. There is in this case. The baker claims is goes against his Christian principles to bake this cake. The Bible is where those principles are enumerated and I've never seen a word about not baking a cake for a gay wedding reception in any version of any bible I read. I'd think any Christian would consider the bible a 'damn rational basis', wouldn't you?Thats your opinion and belief. He has a different opinion and belief. All you have to impugn the integrity of Phillips claims is just your opinion, your own belief. That amounts to nothing more than dictating to him your own personal beliefs of the Bible. Theres no rational basis for your own belief of the Bible to be superior to Phillips. None. Let's see-it's illegal and it's practiced almost entirely by Mormons....Ease of division of property? SERIOUSLY? THIS is why you think polygamy is still illegal?Poor argument. The use of horse drawn buggies as the primary mode of transportation is practiced almost entirely by the Amish but that hardly makes todays laws keeping them off of highways as discrimination against the Amish. So, the fact polygamyis practices almost entirely by Mormons isnt persuasive the laws prohibiting the practice is targeting Mormons for discrimination. Your logic leads to the conclusion traffic laws are targeting the Amish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeygirl Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The Amish? Why do the Amish need to be brought into this? What did they do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I avoided this thread because I thought there were intelligent debates being had in here beyond my capacity for understanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Dameron Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Has monkeygirl always had so much trouble following even her own half of the conversation, or is she just wasting people's time or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 They make nice furniture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 And they drive really slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 The Trump Clown Car is the gift that keeps on giving. Today Guiliani was on some showing saying "truth isn't truth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Dameron Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 The Trump Clown Car is the gift that keeps on giving. Today Guiliani was on some showing saying "truth isn't truth".He was making a legit point about how telling the truth under oath doesn't always stop the prosecutor from charging a person with perjury because the prosecutor may have his own version of the truth. I'm pretty sure the Trump folks know that Mueller won't be able to touch him based on what he has now. But once Trump goes under oath, conflicting stories or just plain faulty memories could suddenly put impeachment on the table. Really, I came out of it more shaking my head at the unprofessional way that Chuck Todd received it. Also, Trump needs to stop sending out Giuliani. I'm seeing a guy who used to be able to think quickly on his feet getting to an age where he's easily flustered and his words aren't as precise as they once were. Giuliani's a good guy, and is probably still an asset for the team when it comes to instincts and strategy, but it's sad because he's making a lot of errors he wouldn't have not long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 But if Trump doesn't get rid of Guiliani it won't be as fun. I watched part of it before I went out for the day. Honestly - I don't believe Trump does actually anything as President but stump for his "party" with the same rabid talk and golf. The rest is just hot mess run by what doesn't quit or get fired or resign. It'll come out like Reagan that he had some debilitating mental disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Can you imagine what it would have been like with Hillary? The gal can barely stand. She couldn't even come out to concede. Too much butthrurt, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 If I had a dead horse, I'd rename it Benghazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 If I had a girl, I wouldn’t name her Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Dameron Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 In real news, Cohen's statement that Trump directed him to pay hush money is the first real exposure for Trump on criminal charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 When this all came up months ago most legal experts said this constitutes campaign finance violations. While it doesn't look good such violations carry a fine. If there isn't something more nefarious going on here I don't get the rumblings of impeachment. Especially considering Obama broke campaign finance laws as well. Is this really the sword the Democrats want to fall on? For full disclosure, I always thought Trump was guilty of this. I would have been surprised if he wasn't guilty of sleeping with those women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 Well, Cohen made a deal. We will see what falls next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 When this all came up months ago most legal experts said this constitutes campaign finance violations. While it doesn't look good such violations carry a fine. If there isn't something more nefarious going on here I don't get the rumblings of impeachment. Especially considering Obama broke campaign finance laws as well. Is this really the sword the Democrats want to fall on?I haven't seen any signs of real talk about impeachment. Maybe a few on the fringe, but the majority know it isn't happening. Doesn't stop the media, though, because they're selling whatever people are buying, and talk of impeachment gets viewers and clicks. For full disclosure, I always thought Trump was guilty of this. I would have been surprised if he wasn't guilty of sleeping with those women.Most of the time I would think it was gross if a president slept with a porn star. With Trump, I find it the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Most of the time I would think it was gross if a president slept with a porn star. With Trump, I find it the opposite.Lol. You want gross? Monica Lewinsky was actually one of the better looking women that Clinton bedded/assualted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Darth Wicket Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Most of the time I would think it was gross if a president slept with a porn star. With Trump, I find it the opposite. So...you're saying that with Trump it was awesome and you would have loved to watch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Most of the time I would think it was gross if a president slept with a porn star. With Trump, I find it the opposite.Lol. You want gross? Monica Lewinsky was actually one of the better looking women that Clinton bedded/assualted.I think it's gross cause Clinton is a bulbous nosed, white haired old coot. It's gross cause Trump looks like a fat, dribbling, jowly, anthropomorphic ginger pig. If anything it's the calibre of the men in question that make these cases of infidelity physically repugnant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Is it really news that powerful men fuck around if their dick is still working? And I can assure you that Trump is not a ginger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 News? No. Repulsive yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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