Mara Jade Skywalker Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 I made my countdown on my work calendar today. The press tour has begun in earnest. I'm so excited and I'm sooooooo scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Wicket Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I made my countdown on my work calendar today. The press tour has begun in earnest. I'm so excited and I'm sooooooo scared. Jessie? Is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 I made my countdown on my work calendar today. The press tour has begun in earnest. I'm so excited and I'm sooooooo scared. Jessie? Is that you? That's the gif I use whenever I talk about The Last Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbleh Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Why are you (Mara) scared? I'm scared because I'm not that enthusiastic about some of the characters (mainly Finn, Gollum, and Biggles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Biggles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robin Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I am assuming thats Poe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 Why are you (Mara) scared?Because Luke Skywalker is my favorite fictional character of all time and I don't know if I'm going to like what they do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbleh Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 D'oh, I should have worked that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Why are you (Mara) scared?Because Luke Skywalker is my favorite fictional character of all time and I don't know if I'm going to like what they do with him. My track record of guessing vs fandom speculation is pretty good. So for the record: he's not a gray Jedi, he doesn't fall to the darkside, he's just lost hope, and he'll get it back. Oh and he'll totally die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 I'd honestly be more okay if he died than if he stayed a bitter old Jedi. My biggest fear is that he doesn't leave Ahch-To at all. (Although I still don't see the point of him dying.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I feel like the trailers are made up of mostly act one stuff outside of the few bits of Crait. We've seen zero of the casino-location. I also think they know better than to Yoda-up Luke too much cause fan-douches are DYING to criticize the movie for ripping off ESB. And honestly, with Carrie gone, Luke may not die... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I don't know if they'd keep Luke alive because of Fisher's death. I mean if Luke dies in the movie chances are it will the absolute climax of the thing. Hard to change that. As for why he has to die, same reason Obi Wan had to, same reason Dumbledore had to. My prediction or more say wish/guess is this: Kylo and friends attack Ach-To. Luke and Rey manage to escape to that scene where Rey comes out of the water. During their escape something bad happens to Chewie or Finn or someone. Rey wants to go help. Luke is all like "no, not now". Rey goes anyway, much like ESB. Rey manages to get herself into a mess and captured by Snoke. Kylo saves her, killing Snoke. Rey thinks he's turned good but in reality he just wants all the power for himself and was tired of Snoke's abuse. When Rey refuses to join him it infuriates Kylo who, now fueled by the rush of power he got from killing Snoke is even more dangerous than ever. Meanwhile Luke is on Ach-To and after some soul searching decides he was wrong to not want to help. He gets off his ace and goes to join the fray. He arrives just as the First Order is attacking Crait. He frees Rey and the two go to help the Resistance. The battle is an onslaught though. Luke faces off with Kylo who is more powerful with the darkside than ever. Kylo kills him. Rey escapes. Rey is depressed, sits with BB8. Says something like "how am I going to do this all alone now" then Leia, Finn, Poe walk in and Leia says "you aren't alone, not ever". The end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Luke's not dyin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I'd be surprised if he doesn't at some point. Rey needs to be the hero on her own, without Luke's help. If Luke in IX isn't going to be running around physically helping her then you may as well kill him in TLJ. You'd get the emotional gut punch, you'd put Kylo over and you can still have Luke as a ghost in IX anyway. The ghost thing completely allows them to have their cake and eat it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 What I WANT is probably an entire thread... But based on what the trailers have shown, I predict TLJ will be something this: Story starts right after TFA. The Resistance is evacuating their base now that it's location is known, mobilizing their small fleet. Finn is loaded up in a medpod. The First Order arrives, intercepting them, and we get an early space battle. This is where Poe blows shit up. Kylo leads the attack, and is tempted to kill Leia, but can't pull the trigger, allowing her to escape-- but the resistance is scattered. On Ach-to, Rey meets Luke, he's reticent and nervous, but sees she's with R2 and Chewie. Rey tries to convince Luke to help her, but he is too nervous to help anyone become more powerful after what Kylo did. This memory haunts him so much, that Rey "sees" it (so we do too, like her vision before). For the first half of act two we bounce between the split up heroes: Leia and Poe as they try to get the Resistance gathered back up to force. I think Leia getting the Republic to join their cause, or other groups/governments-- something political to build a movement to stop the first order. Finn and the new girl whose name I forget end up on the casino planet, which is stupidly NOT run by Lando, but some other middle-of-the-rogue (see what I did there) type character. They get word of what Leia is doing and somehow discover that the First Order is already onto the plan. Rey trains with Luke once she convinces him it needs to happen. Luke's quest to find answers isn't over, and there is some Jedi treasure he wants to find. The training is ultimately broken up when Kylo arrives having learned Luke's location from either interrogating somebody, or sifting through whatever he could find from the scattered resistance forces. Luke has a chance to kill Kylo, but can't. He, Rey, and Chewie escape in the Falcon. The back half of act two finds Finn infiltrating the First Order (with Benicio Del Toro's help) to stop them from doing further damage to Leia/the Resistance. He ultimately faces off against Phasma as they complete their mission. Leia takes a back seat as we follow Poe on a mission to Crait, which leads to the Resistance planning to base themselves there. Rey and Luke discover whatever it is he was looking for, maybe the old book/journal and it gives them answers, but not the kind they want. Luke decides SOMETHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN, and while it is noble and right, it will have some sort of fallout that Rey has trouble accepting. The storylines converge in the third act with the final attack on Crait. Poe and Finn leads the attack, Leia and Luke are able to briefly re-united before Kylo manages to infiltrate the base and capture Luke. Rey seemingly betrays them all and joins Kylo, in his exit, Kylo has another chance to kill Leia, and this time acts on it-- and her fate is left a mystery. As the battle rages and the tides turn, Snoke tries to find out why Rey is so powerful, and Luke seems broken and removed... until he isn't. Rey had no intention of flipping, and she and Kylo face off again. Luke, having set the trap up, goes against Snoke and ultimately kills him-- but is still unable to stop Kylo. Kylo has grown in power, and this time, he bests Rey, feeling pissed and betrayed that she duped him. Luke sacrifices himself to save Rey, and in the process the whole ship goes up. Kylo barely escapes with his life. It ends on the surface of Crait with Poe and Finn finding Rey in her escape pod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Dameron Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 If they're following the Original Trilogy's timetable, Obi-Wan died in the first movie. Han took that slot. And Yoda died in the third movie after his trainee left early. It's totally possible that Rey leaves against Luke's wishes, so there you go. We can pencil him in to die in Episode IX. It just seems too early to kill off Luke. They've already done the killing off the old mentor thing with Han and you've gotta figure that they'd want to have Luke around to give the movies gravitas for a bit longer. I mean, they hit us so hard with the nostalgia and it'd be weird if after 2 movies, the only characters left that tie back to the original trilogy are Chewie and the droids. Even just planning to leave it on Leia's shoulders is a bit odd. Personally, I'd wait until the next trilogy to kill him off. Let him get back his mojo in this trilogy first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I feel like IX is more likely at this point, but it happening in TLJ is definitely possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 I think your basic pacing is probably right. Three major action sequences. The opening evacuation, Kylo attacking Ach-To, and the climax on and around Crait. My questions are what are Finn and Rose doing on Canto Bight? How do they find out Luke's location. These two things could be aligned, if Leia is taken prisoner in the first act. Finn and Rose's mission along with Benicio could be about rescuing Leia. I also think it would be kinda cool if Kylo brings Leia before Snoke, they demand Luke's location. Snoke says he will torture it out of Leia she says "no matter what you do to me, I won't tell you" Snoke says "oh I know" and he begins to use the Force to torture Kylo and no matter the terrible things Kylo has done Leia cannot bear to see her son in that kind of pain and she gives up Luke's location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Dameron Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Finn and the new girl whose name I forget end up on the casino planet, which is stupidly NOT run by Lando Okay, for that alone, everyone involved needs to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Maybe Rey does after teaching Luke how to love again, and the trilogy is really just Luke's hero journey part 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 When do we find out that Ben is actually Luke's biological son? We gotta hit all the beats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Only thing I would say about Leia;s fate being unknown is this: Ridley basically said in an interview that her and Fisher had a scene that was the end of the movie. Here is the quote: "The last thing Carrie and I filmed together was emotional for a variety of reasons. It’s the end of the film, and all of this crazy stuff has happened. There’s this moment that we share, and thinking about it now, I realize that it’s going to be really hard to watch. Because it will seem like a goodbye, even though it wasn’t at the time. "When you combine that with Johnson repeatedly saying they didn't change Carrie's performance at all due to her death it seems like it will be clear she will survive the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 I'd be surprised if he doesn't at some point. Rey needs to be the hero on her own, without Luke's help. If Luke in IX isn't going to be running around physically helping her then you may as well kill him in TLJ. You'd get the emotional gut punch, you'd put Kylo over and you can still have Luke as a ghost in IX anyway. The ghost thing completely allows them to have their cake and eat it too. Rey already was the hero on her own. She defeated Kylo completely alone, without Luke's help. Personally I would much rather see a group of good guys going up against Snoke at the climax of Episode IX, rather than another Luke/Vader/Palpatine deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 Also, none of you guys' predictions has Luke and Leia reuniting and this makes me really really really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Ghost projection of Leia is in the future. If they kill off Chewie. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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