RamonAtila Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 People in the old thread said that the movement of planets in no way ripple down to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 If you want to make the argument that babies born at different times of the year develop differently then you will have my attention (though I will argue environment has a far larger impact). No need to call it astrology though.The planets in our solar system are part of the environment. Duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Local environment. The difference in gravity between our locations dwarfs the effect from any planatary body but the moon. Not to mention EM dose, air pollution, atmospheric pressure, so forth. How can you see the effects of planatary bodies on human behavior through all that? Assuming of course that they have any effect, and if they do how can anyone possibly make predictions without describing exactly how those affects occur? That is the problem with astrology. Human behavior is based on local environment. Do things try to eat you? Will you die from exposure if you don't prepare for winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 Local environment may dwarf the effects of the big planets but there is an effect nonetheless. You're even alluding to.how those effects are so subtle. You may develop a certain way based on what time of the year you were born, now couple that with the friction caused by planetary movement and there are effects. Subtle effects, like an uplifted spirit or a worsening depression. Your body has a special identity, and cosmic imprint, and the cosmos are an obstacle for the rest of your life. And how could there even be a local environment without there being an outer environment. Just the simple fact that the earth gets all its ingredients from outer space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeygirl Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 How could the time you born influence anything. What do you mean by 'You may develop a certain way..."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I completely agree that the gravitational affects from planetary bodies could have a minuscule effect on the physiology of humans. I seriously doubt that it has an affect on human behavior, certainly not in any way that can be predicted. That is what astrology is all about. You aren't showing me any predictive ability. You are spouting the mysticism you claim to reject. Make some scientific argument about how Jupiter makes me want to kill you or admit that I wan't to kill you because of my environment. (I know I shouldn't have to put a disclaimer on this, but history teaches lessons. This is totally tongue in cheek, LOL, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Lol Now I'm high enough to appreciate this thread. Tis ill-conceived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeygirl Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Can anybody in here hear me typing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ender Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Strong peer review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good God a Bear Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Wait wait wait...Tami is an Admin?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 I thought I explained the science with the page on gravitational waves. Each person is born with a birth chart, the position of all.the planets in the sky at the time of their birth. Now as they go through life the planets move around, and it affects you in subtle and not so subtle and profound ways. Now just like the sun we wouldn't even be around if there weren't any planets. Their gravity holds our bodies together. Your date of death was written virtually the time.you were born and everything between ia up to you if you care. Now up.til recently I've gotten grilled on not having the scientific proof that planets send waves. And with the recent discovery of gravitational waves, well, now that proof exists! Why am I fighting for my belief is astrology? I dunno, I hate the.mystification of it. Astrologers could be very biased and give.misinformation, especially when they don't have your full birth chart and give sun sign predictions.putting everyone of a.sign under one umbrella. I basically created this thread to say ha ha pavonis they discovered gravitational waves who's so.smart now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 fuck me im drunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Y'all ready to believe in the force y'all can't even handle grav. Waves smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ender Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I thought I explained the science with the page on gravitational waves. Each person is born with a birth chart, the position of all.the planets in the sky at the time of their birth. Now as they go through life the planets move around, and it affects you in subtle and not so subtle and profound ways. Now just like the sun we wouldn't even be around if there weren't any planets. Their gravity holds our bodies together. Your date of death was written virtually the time.you were born and everything between ia up to you if you care. Now up.til recently I've gotten grilled on not having the scientific proof that planets send waves. And with the recent discovery of gravitational waves, well, now that proof exists! Why am I fighting for my belief is astrology? I dunno, I hate the.mystification of it. Astrologers could be very biased and give.misinformation, especially when they don't have your full birth chart and give sun sign predictions.putting everyone of a.sign under one umbrella. I basically created this thread to say ha ha pavonis they discovered gravitational waves who's so.smart nowWell...gravitational waves have long been predicted going back to Einstein. Gravitational waves were just recently detected. How do gravitational waves impact your personality? What is the mechanism? There is a huge leap of logic between gravity exists and gravity determines your personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Omg now you don't need to discuss gravitational waves to figure out how a personality works. Can you tell me where a personality comes from or is that all.ooga booga magic to.you. evolution! How bout that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ender Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just for fun I calculated the gravitational force between a person (100kg) standing 1m from a loaded semi truck of 30,000kg and I got .0002N I then calculated the gravitational force between a person (100 kg) standing the average distance (6.0x10^27m) from Jupiter (1.9x10^27kg) and got .0000364N. That's right, being born next to a truck has more of an impact on your life than Jupiter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUAJedi2 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 So, does Pluto not affect me any more, since it's now an un-planet? What about Makemake or Sedna? The International Space Station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Now just like the sun we wouldn't even be around if there weren't any planets. Their gravity holds our bodies together.If that were true you'd be a puddle of goo. Luckily there are other forces. Forces so strong that the comparative weakness of gravity is one of the great mysteries of science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just for fun I calculated the gravitational force between a person (100kg) standing 1m from a loaded semi truck of 30,000kg and I got .0002N I then calculated the gravitational force between a person (100 kg) standing the average distance (6.0x10^27m) from Jupiter (1.9x10^27kg) and got .0000364N. That's right, being born next to a truck has more of an impact on your life than Jupiter. Right. A truck.will.flatten you in seconds. No arguments there.So, does Pluto not affect me any more, since it's now an un-planet? What about Makemake or Sedna? The International Space Station?No no Pluto still counts. So do comets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Now just like the sun we wouldn't even be around if there weren't any planets. Their gravity holds our bodies together.If that were true you'd be a puddle of goo. Luckily there are other forces. Forces so strong that the comparative weakness of gravity is one of the great mysteries of science.A truck has more impact than a planet to a planet would make me a pile of goo. Make up your minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 No, he is saying that gravity is a very weak force compared to those forces that actually do hold our bodies, and everything else, together, specifically the strong and weak nuclear forces and the electromagnetic force. If it weren't for them, and if gravitational pulls of far distant celestial bodies had any sizable effect on us, as you believe, we would all be puddles of goo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 If you want to make the argument that babies born at different times of the year develop differently then you will have my attention (though I will argue environment has a far larger impact). No need to call it astrology though.The planets in our solar system are part of the environment. Duh Is that like in the way that light from Proxima Centauri must travel a little over 4 light years to reach us type of impact? I mean we can see the Milky Way in the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 No, he is saying that gravity is a very weak force compared to those forces that actually do hold our bodies, and everything else, together, specifically the strong and weak nuclear forces and the electromagnetic force. If it weren't for them, and if gravitational pulls of far distant celestial bodies had any sizable effect on us, as you believe, we would all be puddles of goo.We would actually be a bunch of sub-sub- atomic particles in a singularity without interacting. But that doesn't rhyme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ender Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Mass of person (100kg) mass of Pluto (1.4x10^22kg) average distance (7.5x10^9m)= 0.0000015N Mass of person (100kg) mass of dildo in your hand (2kg) average distance (.0001m)= 1.3N You holding a dildo has a larger gravitational force than pluto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 don't talk about my weekend activities like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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