Marc DuQuesne Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Last year the Justice Department recommended that the government should discriminate against a whole bunch of mentally ill people in the name of public safety. What makes this bunch special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 they're retardedokay sorry bad joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 OH BOY A PROVOCATIVE TRAP THREAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceheart Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/692/118/2db.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 A schizophrenic believes he is POTUS. The only place he can possibly sleep comfortably is in his own (Obama's) bed and being barred from it causes him great emotional pain. Is it discrimination for Secret Service to stop him? Does anyone care if it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 One more piece of bait for the "trap". Let's say that Obama, being a kind and considerate man decides to permit the schizophrenic to sleep in his bed. What do you suppose a mental health professional would say about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I feel like this conversation is headed for jet fuel and steel girders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 Hoped it was headed for discussion. At least smoke and ruin would be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerina Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Ok. I'll bite. Your example isn't discrimination. Do you have another example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 I know it isn't, neither is the TG bathroom issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerina Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Aaaaaad, there we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Hoped it was headed for discussion. At least smoke and ruin would be something. I am not trying to be rude or dismissive, but if you want to have a discussion, it is helpful not to speak in riddles and/or appear that you are setting people up for a trap. I mean, can you give exactly who the Justice Department wants us to discriminate against? From your posts, I assume it is schizophrenic people? Who is the schizophrenic person in Obama's bed? Some homeless guy? Is this a Michelle Obama joke? I am genuinely curious and willing to have a discussion, but do not have enough information at this time. EDIT: OK, it's about TG bathroom stuff. Now we are getting somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Re: discrimination. Even if you consider transgenderism a serious mental illness, it differs from schizophrenia in a very key way. Untreated, the delusions of schizophrenia can lead to destructive behavior, violence, even death. To be clear, this is not the inevitable or even most likely outcome, and it needs to be noted that a good portion of the violence is actually abuse perpetrated on people suffering from schizophrenia. But from a position of human welfare and public safety, I would agree that it is in society's interest to look after our schizophrenic friends and neighbors, our schizophrenic yous and mes. With that in mind, there may be jobs or responsibilities where schizophrenia should be a disqualifier. On the other hand, I have seen nothing indicating people with gender dysphoria are unusually prone to harming others compared to the general population (though there is a correlation with suicide/self harm), so the only possible reasons for discriminating against that group of people are: fear of the unknown, being grossed out at the idea of women who were born with weiners (seems to be less fear of women transitioning into men), being overly prude/modest, backward religious beliefs (i.e. being Christian or Muslim), or just needing somebody outside of your in-group to hate on. There are no reasonable welfare or safety considerations that come with allowing a transgender person to use the same bathroom as you. Some bullshit fear-based speculation, sure, but nothing honest or compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerina Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Don't forget the notion that all men are child rapists and don't need to be in the bathroom with little girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 Forget harm to others, what about harm to them? If you frame the argument in the context of mental health instead of diversity there is no argument that enabling them is a positive thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good God a Bear Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Not the ****ing bathroom thing again. Good fuck. Shit and piss where you want. Just shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 What the fuck are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 retards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 Not the ****ing bathroom thing again. Good ****. **** and piss where you want. Just shut up.Not another one of those "not another one of those" posts. Jesus ****ING Christ and post where you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 If you're saying being transgender is a mental illness there's no argument to have. Your entry point is one with zero merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 Really? You a shrink? http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerina Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Reign it in or this thread is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Really? You a shrink? http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-changeOne article, with zero shares to social media, and a dedicated uber-right website. That's not evidence of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc DuQuesne Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 Social media? I give you a world renowned psychiatrist with 6 books and 126 peer reviewed articles and you want social media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 No, I want evidence beyond an article on an uber right website that no one has seen. Just because he's published other papers that doesn't mean this idea has merit. Where is its peer review? Every minority has spent it's time being judged by science as somehow broken. From black people to homosexuals. One outlier opinion isn't the basis of a real argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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