3 & 6 years to go... Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Yes, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUAJedi2 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 FWIW, Driver, Orson Scott Card loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 I QUIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 ENDED GAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 The movie came up at lunch today and positive comments were made about it by others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 And then you shot them down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Yes, Their Opinion Has Fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerina Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 It's on Netflix. Do you make money if I watch it on Netflix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 Maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 Better not watch. Don't wanna risk his ego inflating any more than it already has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 No. Watch it. I want to buy another house to take the hookers to since my family lives in the one I already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 No. Watch it. I want to buy another house to take the hookers to since my family lives in the one I already have.Meeting Jacob at his place is just not good enough for you anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashmere Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I tried to get this movie at Redbox last night but they didn't have it. Settled for My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2 instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 It's pretty much the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Dameron Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Was curious, so I looked up its final box office totals. Looks like it did rather well. To go ahead and compare it to a film that, apparently, merited a sequel: Olympus Has Fallen London Has Fallen Difference Change Domestic $98,925,640 $62,524,260 -$36,401,380 -36.8%Foreign $62,100,000 $133,201,324 +$71,101,324 +144.5%Worldwide $161,025,640 $195,725,584 +$34,699,944 +21.5% Budget $70,000,000 $60,000,000 -$10,000,000 -14.2% Apparently, it dropped off rather significantly in the United States, but found a much bigger audience overseas than its predecessor. Even with the studios not getting as much of the foreign cut as the domestic, a movie making back 3.25x its budget can be considered a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Millennium, the studio that made it, generally only makes movies they know they can pre-sale to foreign markets for at least half their budget. If they can do that, and it's a sequel to something that previously performed, they will pull the trigger without hesitation. So yes, there is a third one in the works. No, I'm not involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I can only assume it will be called The Box Office Has Fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberSix Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Do you still get paid if I add it to my queue but put off watching it for months? I haven't seen the first one yet and I hate to think how disappointed I'll be if this one contains a nuance and I miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 Gerald Butler knows from nuance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 THIS IS NUANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Olympus Has Fallen London Has Fallen Difference Change Domestic $98,925,640 $62,524,260 -$36,401,380 -36.8%Foreign $62,100,000 $133,201,324 +$71,101,324 +144.5%Worldwide $161,025,640 $195,725,584 +$34,699,944 +21.5% Budget $70,000,000 $60,000,000 -$10,000,000 -14.2% I've always been very curious about the economics of movies in general. Let's assume these numbers are 100% accurate (because there is sometimes incentive to inflate or deflate unofficial reported numbers to make a movie to appear to be a "hit"). Someone who actually knows please correct me if I'm wrong anywhere. LHF has a WW gross of 196M. It's my understanding that movie theaters take their cut off the top, and thats roughly 50%. So that leaves 98M, which is the distributor's gross. The distributors take their cut, which I believe is usually estimated at about 35%. That leaves 63.7M. Subtracting the budget of 60M leaves 3.7M. Is that remaining 3.7M the producer's profit? What about marketing/promotional expenses; is that worked into the initial budget, or does the distributor absorb those? Are there any other significant expenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 Those percentages are not set in stone, they are negotiated. And their are constantly lawsuits and audits to determine actual money made. The breakdown on profit is different for every movie. You're also missing marketing from your math which for some movies is zero, and other movies can be triple the budget. Technically, a studio looks at what they make after the theater cut and compare it to the budget-- but if marketing expenses (which are sometimes worked into budget, sometimes not) work against it, that can sometimes kill any profit. Keep in mind also the distributors can sometimes be multiple partners who want a bigger cut. I wish I could say there is one particular formula, but their isn't. In the case of this movie, it was sold to foreign distributors before it was made based only on the fact it was a sequel to a movie that did well before and had Gerard Butler. Like I said above, Millennium generally only makes movies they know they can pre-sale to foreign markets to make up the bulk of the budget. Pre-selling those markets gives them their money with minimal investment. So Millennium was in for a handful of millions instead of tens or hundreds of it. So for them, even if the move just barely made profit, their ROI is worth it. The budget pays for the production and the salaries for the actors and above the line talent (director, writer(s), producers, department heads). Profit splitting, like I said, is negotiated by every person who is above the line. In fact, I may be due some box offices bonuses. Thanks for bringing this up, I plan to call my lawyer tomorrow to look into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 That's what I'm here for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Dameron Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Is that remaining 3.7M the producer's profit? What about marketing/promotional expenses; is that worked into the initial budget, or does the distributor absorb those? Are there any other significant expenses? The general rule-of-thumb is that a movie has to make twice as much as it cost to make money. As Driver pointed out, it's not that simple and there are a ton of contracts to be signed and profits to be divvied up. Not to mention Hollywood's less than scrupulous accounting practices. But I'm certain that it made more than $3.7 million. You know why? Because they're making another sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevil Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Thanks for bringing this up, I plan to call my lawyer tomorrow to look into it!Better call Saul!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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