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As long as it's not the kind of super juvenile "dipping her hair braid in the ink blot" romance like between Han and Leia.

What the heck does that even mean?

 

In previous centuries, kids' school supplies used to include bottles of ink and dip pens. Sometimes a boy who had to sit in class behind a girl thought to themselves what a merry prank it would be to dip said girl's ponytail or pigtail in his inkwell. And then the girl would either go tattle on the boy or make him eat his pen. After so many years of destructive practical joking back and forth like this, nonstop irritation would slowly turn into love and then they'd get married and all live happily ever after.

 

I think that's how it worked, anyway. This kind of Norman Rockwell stuff was way before my time.

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It's one of the very few remaining ways of portraying romance that's acceptable to audiences, predominantly male geek fandoms in particular and especially reviewers and moral guardians, who will scream "sexism" and "misogyny" if a boy and a girl actually just like each other and start dating or even - gasp, horrors - fall in love, like in the real world. So that's how it's going to have to be.

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Christopher Lee was physically gifted, imposingly tall, learned how to fence as a young man, and (by his estimation) was in more on screen swordfights than any other actor in history... He obviously couldn't do the more acrobatic stuff by AotC and RotS, but the guy could still be a big (and to me, convincing) presence with a blade in his hand.

 

I wouldn't mind see Leia doing "Force stuff" (though I'm not clamoring for it, either), but her character/Fisher just wouldn't feel natural to me with a lightsaber, no matter how much CGI is used. Give Leia a podium, a blaster, and a crack special ops team working under her and I'm good.

 

So Christopher Lee didn't actually do the back flip in ROTS?

 

The only force using I want to see Leia do is maybe reach out to communicate to other force sensitives like Luke, Rey, or Finn (if he is force sensitive...that's not proven yet). Or, I would like to see her in command of a battle, and use the force to determine the best course of action against the enemy. Beyond that, I don't think it would fit her current character.

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If there's ANY romance in this saga, especially Rey/Finn, the internet will scream murder. The obligatory shrill cries of "misogyny", "whatever happened to STRONG, independant role models for our girls?" and the like will swamp every internet server on the planet. It would be courageous of Disney to do this, but I highly doubt they will.

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Yup, that's exactly why all the people on the Internet are clamoring for Finn/Poe or Finn/Rey, because they obviously hate each other.

The only people clamoring for Finn/Poe is people who write fan fic Mommy Porn

 

You say that like that's a bad thing.

 

And I can only LOL at the claim that people will be mad if Finn and Rey get together, because we obviously don't read the same internet.

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I need to watch ESB again and take another look at Han & Leia, but I'm remember being OK with it at the time (or just the last time I saw it) and I've always argued that it was one of the things that made Star Wars appeal to people who are never going to be that interested in light swords and spaceships and that Force thing (that broad appeal being part of its success, something that people who write novels about Rancor-riding betting scandals on Grezundula V don't seem to have a clue about)

 

if a boy and a girl actually just like each other and start dating or even - gasp, horrors - fall in love, like in the real world

I don't think this happens in a lot movies (and other things) because people want to see the (normal) tensions & friction in their real world relationships mirrored on the screen. These things usually happen after people fall in love in the real world, but movies like to invert it and most of the time it just works.

 

It's not unlike the thinking behind a lot of car advertising. It's not about trying to make you buy a car; it's about making you feel good about the car you've bought.

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The only people clamoring for Finn/Poe is people who write fan fic Mommy Porn

Ha ha!

 

It is precisely because Finn and Rey like each other that I think - and this is just my opinion - that a romance between them will be avoided. It WILL be raised as a possibility, but they will "like and respect" each other too much to "allow such feelings" to come between them, or something similar.

 

Disney has heard loud and clear the criticisms they've received over their portrayals of princesses in their earlier works. And they know damn well what those criticisms were really telling them. They won't drop the romantic subplot entirely, of course, but SW is just too big to ignore popular and critical demands where these issues are concerned. A romance involving Rey is not out of the question, but I do think it unlikely.

 

You'll just have to tackle it in your fanfic, Mara!

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I guess I don't really care one way or the other if Rey has a romance with someone. As long as it isn't done poorly and in a puke-worthy fashion, I'm for it. If not...whatever. At the very least, I'm sure a bit of sexual tension will be played up, especially since it started to show itself a bit in TFA. It's too good of a literary opportunity to pass up.

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