Metropolis Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Anybody have to do this before? My wife has never seen Star Wars. It wasn't an issue for either of us until that How I Met Your Mother episode where Ted's gf admits to him that she's never seen a Star Wars movie. We tried back then, but we both fell asleep during ANH, and it never came back up. Fast forward 2015, we're going to an 8:00pm show next Thursday, and she does not want to go in not knowing what the hell anything is about. So we're about to start. I originally planned on watching 4,5,6,1,2,3. Partially because there are things in the PT that sloppily rely on a previous knowledge of the OT. I've now decided to watch 1,2,3,4,5,6 because the OT will be fresh in her mind, and that TFA is a direct sequel to the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 My wife watched 4, 5, 6 and I love her and want her to not hate Star Wars so that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Maker Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Agreed--4, 5, 6, then prequels at her own risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 My wife watched 4, 5, 6 and I love her and want her to not hate Star Wars so that's it.Exactly. My wife has seen 4-6 and that's it. She liked ROTJ the best, because of the ewoks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Well she liked TPM. Though she says she has a lot of questions for me. I knew that was going to be the case. She knows of the SW universe and its characters, but she's never seen the movies. Funnier moments - Where's RD-D2? Moments after they escape Naboo - What? They're not taking the mom? - Sam Jackson looks so young.- I thought Padme was the queen, but I wasn't sure. - He does not like that haircut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I have a few preferred ways of watching. The main one is this: Episode 4... then 5.. then 6.fini You could watch a handful of the best episodes on TCW, and then the above too. If you have saga OCD and HAVE to watch all six, try this:Episode 4Episode 1Episode 5Episode 2Episode 3Episode 6 Finally, I watched an interesting fan edit this last weekend called The Empire Begins. It showed the duel from Episode 1, then Episodes 2 and 3 heavily edited all into one 2.5 hour movie. It almost worked, and for the first time Anakin;s story almost made some sense. But it was still turd polishing at the end of the day-- but the editor tried really hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 The one thing I didn't convey to her was that Episode 1 was set 30 prior to Episode 4. She asked me why they kept calling Luke Anakin. I'm kinda anticipating a change of opinion tonight. She thought Jake Lloyd was cute and loved how kind hearted he was. Hayden is going to flush all that down the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think it's possible that without 30 years of Head Canon and anticipation that she might dig it. The problem I had was knowing THAT whiny bitch was the one in the suit I used to think was so cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I have a co-worker who's never seen Star Wars. She asked if she should see any of the movies before watching The Force Awakens with her kids. I said NO, I want you to go in completely fresh (she knows Vader is Luke's father, I think that's about it). I'm basically using her as an experiment. When she does watch the originals, though, I told her to watch them in release order. I'm a firm believer on consuming things in release order the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 When she does watch the originals, though, I told her to watch them in release order. I'm a firm believer on consuming things in release order the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I also want to add: I don't think everyone would, necessarily, hate the prequels. My wife, however, would get about halfway through TPM and be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'd never push Star Wars on anybody. The originals are kinda cheesy by today's standards, and I'm not sure they could be magical to somebody who didn't grow up with them. The prequels are just straight-up bad. But if somebody said they were interested, I'd show them a copy of the non-SE originals (4-5-6) with the caveat that the FX and pacing (at least in IV and V) might not be up to today's standards. Then, if they liked those, I'd recommend TPM with the caveat that it's not just a movie that is "child friendly," but quite possibly a movie that was written by somebody with the mind of a child. If, after TPM, they still wanted more, I'd cautiously recommend AotC and RotS with the caveat that they'd be wise to lower their intellectual defenses with heavy drink/smoke prior to viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'd never push Star Wars on anybody. The originals are kinda cheesy by today's standards, and I'm not sure they could be magical to somebody who didn't grow up with them. The prequels are just straight-up bad.I agree 100%. Everything that people complain about the PT was there in the OT, just to a much lessor degree and not nearly as bad. At TV Tropes they call the phenomenon "there all along" which means the precursors of something that was eventually gonna suck was there all along. Which makes sense because the same guy behind the PT was behind the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberSix Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 How I experienced Star Wars way back when, in order: 1. read the ESB novelization2. picked up a couple of random Marvel Star Wars comics; couldn't figure out why a green bunny3. saw ROTJ twice in theaters4. saw ANH on VHS sometime after 19905. saw ESB several years after that6. saw all three Special Editions in theaters with JC; spent most of the ROTJ screening commenting MST3K-style and making it hard for her to concentrate ...and that takes us up to 1999. This completely out-of-order experience may explain why my minority opinion of the OT is "it's extremely not-bad". Fortunately I married a woman who's seen all the films way more times than I have, so I never had to put any effort into reeducation like some of y'all have apparently had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm shocked she married you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I saw ROTJ in the movie theaters myself, but I barely remember. I was three years old, and my aunt and uncles took me along. As a teenager, when watching TESB special edition in the theaters, ROTJ was playing immediately after it in the same theater, so we stayed in our seats and essentially snuck in to see that one for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberSix Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm shocked she married youMe. too. Every single day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ender Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I saw an interesting way of doing this: E4 -> E5 -> E2 -> E3 -> E6 TPM is left out because it really doesn't matter. E 4/5 is about LukeE 2/3 is about Anakin E6 is the conlusion to both stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberSix Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Interesting idea, positioning the prequels as flashbacks within the OT narrative. If there were any way you could extract just the most useful and salvageable PT scenes and insert them before and throughout ROTJ (definitely saving them till after the "I AM YOUR FATHER" moment), one could basically reconstruct the series using a pattern similar to The Godfather I/II. (And dumping the leftover PT dross in much the same way I'd dump Godfather III.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I've got an idea. This one is for those with kids. Make your ten year old watch TPM first.Then show him AOTC, but make him wait ten years later as twenty year old.Show him ROTS three years later. Make sure he gives you a grand child, and assume immediate costody of the baby.show him ANH twenty years later.Next show him TESB, and reveal to your grandson who his true father is.next show him ROTJ and let your middle-aged son throw your old ass down a laundry chute. This way, your kid can absorb the ultimate star wars experience and actually live the tragedy of Darth Vader from a first-person perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Interesting idea, positioning the prequels as flashbacks within the OT narrative. If there were any way you could extract just the most useful and salvageable PT scenes and insert them ... That's what I'd love to do if I ever had time to sit and edit hours worth of somebody else's movies. I'd do it something like this: A New Hope Flashback 1 in Ben's hovel: LUKENo, my father didn't fight in thewars. He was a navigator on a spicefreighter.BENThat's what your uncle told you. Hedidn't hold with your father's ideals.Thought he should have stayed hereand not gotten involved.LUKEYou fought in the Clone Wars?BENYes, I was once a Jedi Knight thesame as your father.... FLASHBACK HERE An extended montage of battle footage on the various planets from AOTC and ROTS. Over this, run Ben's lines from later in the scene: BEN (voice over)For over a thousand generationsthe Jedi Knights were the guardiansof peace and justice in the OldRepublic. Before the dark times,before the Empire. (now footage shifts focus to Obi-Wan and Anakin from AOTC) BEN (voice over)Your father (recycled from somewhere)...He was the best star-pilot in thegalaxy, and a cunning warrior....And he was a good friend.LUKE (voice over)I wish I'd known him. RESUME SCENE BENI have something here for you. Yourfather wanted you to have this whenyou were old enough, but your unclewouldn't allow it. He feared youmight follow old Obi-Wan on somedamned-fool idealistic crusade likeyour father did.THREEPIOSir, if you'll not be needing me,I'll close down for awhile.LUKESure, go ahead.Ben hands Luke the saber.LUKEWhat is it?BENYour fathers lightsaber. This is theweapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsyor as random as a blaster.Luke pushes a button on the handle. A long beam shoots outabout four feet and flickers there. The light plays acrossthe ceiling.BENAn elegant weapon for a more civilizedtime. Luke hasn't really been listening.LUKEHow did my father die? Ben gives that pensive look and we show a quick FLASH of Anakin on Mustafar-- but the shot from behind, or one where his face is obscured-- idea being that we DON'T see this as Anakin, but present him JUST as Darth Vader. Then resume, and--BENA young Jedi named Darth Vader, whowas a pupil of mine until he turnedto evil, helped the Empire hunt downand destroy the Jedi Knights. Hebetrayed and murdered your father.Now the Jedi are all but extinct.Vader was seduced by the dark sideof the Force. Later, when Tarkin tells Vader he's all that remains of the Jedi after discussing Obi-Wan I'd do one other flashback-- showing Anakin from TPM-- leaving his mother, meeting Obi-Wan, being told he'd be trained. Kicker being, his name is never mentioned, so we have no idea that this little boy and the Anakin we see in the earlier flashback are the same person. Basically, I'd do this in each of the films in the scenes where they talk about the prequel era. Very little of the PT dialog needs to be seen or heard-- everything is mostly just visual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Palpatine Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 It felt awesome to take my 10 year old daughter to see it Thursday. She loved it, and she loves the originals. I was tempted to show her the movies in hatchet order. But decided to just show her the originals and let her watch the prequels after these movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Skywalker Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 We showed TPM to Quinn the other day. Since she's a little kid, it seemed like a good start. But I'll probably show her ANH next, because 2 and 3 are significantly darker. And she's already way too big of a Darth Vader fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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