Metropolis Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Lol. @ Krawlie. Now we do know that Ren is a fanboy, but does he really know what Vader's endgame was? Unless of course it was a reference to wiping out all of the Jedi. Even still that was Palpy's plan. Vader was just a puppet. Even GL would have a hard time spinning it otherwise. Seeing as its how he wrote Anakin's path in ROTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Part of me wonders if the above is still real-- but not the trailer we ended up with. It still feels legit despite seeing the real thing: Now I may backtrack on Finn. He sure doesn't seem ready when Ren comes for him. This was super cool and better than the above anyway. Ford seemed like Han. More Falcon in action. I'll say it again, the fact JJ went off book with the cinematography excites me to no end. This movie looks so alive. All you people who don't get the complaint that the PT looks boring and sterile and fake-- compare it to this. This movie is going to look beyond amazing. Biggest WTF moment for me-- Han talking like the events of ROTJ are nothing but legend and not well-known history! My favorite part-- how freaking little we still know about the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 My favorite part (tied with all of the parts) is the dialogue: Rey: "There were stories about what happened."Han: "It's true... All of it.... The dark side, the Jedi, they're real." What took place in the original trilogy is... legendary. Mythical. Unbelievable. Chillllllllllls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskenRaider Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Lots of interesting shots in there. The shot of Ren on a bridge surrounded in a red light. What is that? Are they testing whatever super weapon they have, and it's the beam outside of the window? The shots of the snow planet show a very long, very straight line in the planets surface that seems to match up with the 'death star' looking thing in the poster. Clearly Rey is being painted as the lead character here. Leading in, it sure seemed like Finn was the main lead. But Rey is all over this trailer and has top billing on the poster. So thats interesting and cool. And the best thing that I saw in the trailer, LOTS of dogfights. The PT criminally underused actual space battles and it's great to see those get the proper attention again. Edit: Yes I love how bottled up the story is even now. We have no idea what is going on and this is the last trailer we are going to get. Love it love it love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerina Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 OK but seriously....is Rey crying over Chewie's body?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Lots of interesting shots in there. The shot of Ren on a bridge surrounded in a red light. What is that? Are they testing whatever super weapon they have, and it's the beam outside of the window? I think so-- the shot right after Ren is Force-interrogating Poe there's another red light shot of a forest being nuked. Clearly their superweapon-- which is not a Death Star, but like we guessed from the poster, built into a planet. Still not sure how they'll get that thing around... OK but seriously....is Rey crying over Chewie's body?!Looks like Chewie and Han to me-- but it's not very clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskenRaider Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hmmm...it COULD be. It's impossible to tell, really. It looks like something furry is in the foreground of that shot but who knows. Also the music gives me chills, I forgot to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Man, watching Rey watch that ship take off on Jakku as she stops tinkering with her thing and look longingly at the sky... that just screams Luke on Tattooine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskenRaider Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The only way a planet based laser makes sense is if they can use satellites or other stations to reflect the beam where they want it to go. but even that seems dangerous and a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 It screams Luke looking into the sunset-- but she still looks so much like Padme I still think it's intentional even though they are technically ignoring the PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskenRaider Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Here is the red beam I mentioned above. Too damn bright to make anything out for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 "They're real." *cuts to shot of Luke* Just kill me dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Could be a Knights of Ren appearance in the rain/lightning shot. Could also just be lackey troopers with him. In the shot with Han, Finn, and Rey walking up with all the banners, the Mandalorian symbol is visible for a second at the very top - potentially interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskenRaider Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Could be a Knights of Ren appearance in the rain/lightning shot. Could also just be lackey troopers with him. In the shot with Han, Finn, and Rey walking up with all the banners, the Mandalorian symbol is visible for a second at the very top - potentially interesting. That is a great find! I didn't notice it until you said it but it's definitely there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 it's intentional even though they are technically ignoring the PT.I've seen you say this a few times. What is your reason for thinking that? It is Episode 7. I would imagine any allusions to episodes 1-3 would be small at best seeing as only 2 characters remain from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Ren is surrounded by flametroopers. Could be a Knights of Ren appearance in the rain/lightning shot. Could also just be lackey troopers with him. In the shot with Han, Finn, and Rey walking up with all the banners, the Mandalorian symbol is visible for a second at the very top - potentially interesting. I don't see it-- screencap! Ren is surrounded by flametroopers and Phasma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 it's intentional even though they are technically ignoring the PT.I've seen you say this a few times. What is your reason for thinking that? It is Episode 7. I would imagine any allusions to episodes 1-3 would be small at best seeing as only 2 characters remain from them. My thinking is, no one liked the prequels. (just go with it)They can't exactly de-canonize them given the amount of ties and marketing involved, but if you look at everything JJ and Kathleen Kennedy, or Kasdan and Kinberg have said, they are very politic and soft on the topic-- but they NEVER refer to the prequels, or picking up on any of the threads left behind. They have made it clear from the get go that these movies are inspired by the OT, and the OT only. I'm also pretty sure they will have things we wanted to see in the PT, but didn't get. Lucas is gone, and JJ represents people like me-- people who grew up on the OT, and were not satisfied with the PT. Again-- they are't saying the PT never happened, but they are very carefully not referencing it in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Possible on the flametroopers, but Phasma is definitely not in that shot (right? Unless I'm missing her) God bless the internet. Imgur album of stills from the trailer. Here's the aforementioned Mandalorian banner (at 1:39, right before the fade) http://i.imgur.com/W8Ls4cy.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskenRaider Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 That could be could maybe not be shot of Rey cring over something mixed with the shot of Han holding a crying Leia are seriously making me worried for Chewie.... but they wouldn't kill Chewie would they??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I'd trade Chewie for Han in an instant. I've lived most of my Star Wars life in a post Chewbacca world. I don't want to lose Han Solo. Either way though, can't imagine they'd give something like that up like that in the trailer that's so easy to work out. Just doesn't fit with everything else they've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 it's intentional even though they are technically ignoring the PT. I've seen you say this a few times. What is your reason for thinking that? It is Episode 7. I would imagine any allusions to episodes 1-3 would be small at best seeing as only 2 characters remain from them.My thinking is, no one liked the prequels. (just go with it)They can't exactly de-canonize them given the amount of ties and marketing involved, but if you look at everything JJ and Kathleen Kennedy, or Kasdan and Kinberg have said, they are very politic and soft on the topic-- but they NEVER refer to the prequels, or picking up on any of the threads left behind. They have made it clear from the get go that these movies are inspired by the OT, and the OT only. I'm also pretty sure they will have things we wanted to see in the PT, but didn't get. Lucas is gone, and JJ represents people like me-- people who grew up on the OT, and were not satisfied with the PT. Again-- they are't saying the PT never happened, but they are very carefully not referencing it in any way.I see where you're going, but saying TFA is based on the OT is kind of a duh statement. The only characters around from the PT are R2 and 3PO. And it kind of looks like there won't be a lot of either of them. What kind of reference are they going to make? Hell the PT is based on the OT. I can't see any references to be made. Maybe that seems like they are ignoring it (which we don't know because we haven't seen any of these movies yet) , but it could be that story wise there is nothing to draw from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Possible on the flametroopers, but Phasma is definitely not in that shot (right? Unless I'm missing her) FROM LEFT TO RIGHT: Starlord, Phasma, Cloud from FFIV, Ren, Medical Droid bounty hunter, Imperial Guardsman, Flametrooper Yeah, not as regimented as I thought on closer look. One lightsaber makes me think they're aren't Ren Knights-- but maybe they just haven't turned them on OH GOD I HOPE FOR NO RULE OF TWO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I think a prime example is Han saying "The dark side... the Jedi... they're real," instead of "The Sith... the Jedi... they're real." It's a subtle, but clear difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuskenRaider Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Tough to see properly but these don't particularly look like the flametrooper designs we've seen in the promotional material so far. Plus they all seem to have capes. And that pike.... hmmmmmmmmmm. Edit: I see you posted a shot right before me. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 That was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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