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These "persecuted" Christians are getting on my last ****ing nerve


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Huckabee is a tool, no doubt. And I am totally not on Kim Davis' side, but as a Christian, I'm getting tired of being lumped in with those 2 dumbasses.

Just to clarify...I am not referring to ALL Christians. I am referring to Christians that run around and believe persecuted for whatever bullshit is the topic of the day...evolution, making a god damn cake, doing their job.

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sooooo many ppl confuse 'things did not turn out exactly how i wanted' with "im being persecuted!"

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When Christians in this country start getting their heads cut off like they do in the Middle East or Myanmar, then they can claim they are being oppressed.

 

Ideologues who hold bureaucratic jobs and refuse to issue marriage licenses to gay couples on the grounds that it persecutes their religious freedom, or piss and moan because some coach somewhere was reprimanded for leading a prayer at a football game, yeah, not so much.

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Huckabee is a tool, no doubt. And I am totally not on Kim Davis' side, but as a Christian, I'm getting tired of being lumped in with those 2 dumbasses.

Just to clarify...I am not referring to ALL Christians. I am referring to Christians that run around and believe persecuted for whatever bull**** is the topic of the day...evolution, making a god damn cake, doing their job.

 

I understand. But my Facebook feed is filled with this sort of thing that is admittedly making much bigger leaps than you are. (Tami, I love you, but you've been reposting this stuff too, lately.)

 

I might have a little sympathy for her if she was some peon issuing the licenses. But when she instructed her employees not to issue them, she didn't just overstep her bounds, she took a running start and flying leap over them..

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I've seen several Kim Davis=ISIS posts and have been tempted to completely defriend people because it's so ridiculous.

 

Davis isn't being persecuted, but she also isn't killing or raping anyone.

 

The hyperbole, from both sides, is stupid.

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I've seen several Kim Davis=ISIS posts and have been tempted to completely defriend people because it's so ridiculous.

 

Davis isn't being persecuted, but she also isn't killing or raping anyone.

 

The hyperbole, from both sides, is stupid.

Par for the course.

 

Issuing marriage licenses to gay couples =/= Christians being fed to the lions in the coliseum.

Not issuing marriage licenses to gay couples =/= the Spanish inquisition.

 

If Davis isn't willing to issue licenses to gay couples, perhaps she should get another job. If Davis isn't willing to issue licenses to gay couples, perhaps said couples can get their licenses from another of many people authorized to do so. Perhaps this doesn't need to become a social media circus, wherein everybody takes every chance they get to cry about how they're being repressed. Come see the violence inherent in the system.

 

But this type of crap sells these days. Away they go.

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Everybody's a victim these days. And the results for our culture will be nothing short of catastrophic.

Ender, Kurgan's post alone is right. Ever notice how in every form of communication, anyone not marching with a Joker grin about all things gay, is instantly attacked, and/or shoved from any consideration of their beliefs? Take the Bruce Jenner issue. Yes--Bruce Jenner. I've read and watched the New Thought Authority make (utterly idiotic, and frankly unforgivable) comparisons to the anti-black or anti-Jew propaganda at their historic worst if one does not agree with, or address/recognize Jenner by his adpoted name/identity. Honestly?

 

Yes, the attempt to sledgehammer thought in this partilcular subject is another version of playing the victim, only too many are angry, action-oriented victims. However, you will never see any major media source (news or culture-shaping) even acknowledge that...but we do see some trying to turn Huckabee into the "horned one" on earth.

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Justus, I just want to be sure that you understand my post to have said what I intended it to say. I'm talking more along the lines of how everyone plays the victim these days. Religious conservatives and secular progressives alike. I wasn't saying that we are all the victims of one particular ideology's assault on personal liberties.

 

Just want to make that clear. Otherwise, good post.

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Heh. The Oath Takers plan on defending Kim Davis if the law comes to arrest her for not giving out marriage licenses to what? Two couples who are gay in the whole podunky county? Also besides Huckabee there's another politician who learned Planned Parenthood helps mothers who have given birth...

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  • 3 weeks later...

The couple that refused to make a lesbian cake were found guilty and were forced to cough up $135k aren't paying. The best part is they have raised over $500k for who knows why. I really don't understand this whole victim hood thing. Who are these people sending them all this money? Nobody is making them marry someone of their own sex. Between this and the Pope meeting with Kim Davis, I think this will only intensify in the coming election year. What bothers me most about these emotional issues (not saying they are not important) is that politicians on both sides will make this a rallying call rather than focusing on issues like the economy, poverty, education, etc.

 

I am telling you, people are catching onto this whole martyr industry. There is too much money to be made and attention to be garnered.

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I am telling you, people are catching onto this whole martyr industry. There is too much money to be made and attention to be garnered.

Huh. The cause market/victim industry has been around in a nebulous form since the 1950s, and officially since the 1970s.

 

It took a long time for social/religious conservatives to catch up with other activist special interest groups in this regard for three reasons:

  • Ideology makes them loathe to overtly play the "victim" card (sure, you can whine about the liberal media or progressives brainwashing kids in public schools and universities all day long, but to actually call yourself a victim in the group sense has long been kind of taboo).
  • Social conservatives, especially religious ones, are just not terribly bright or amenable to change. Getting them up to speed takes longer than with other groups. OK, I mostly just wanted to call religious people dumb. But "conservative beliefs" in general do tend to go hand-in-hand with "Me don't wanna change!"
  • Until fairly recently, even if they lost legislative or legal battles, they could comfort themselves with being the dominant cultural majority; this is no longer the case.

But they're here now.

 

I'm kind of amused by how many people are just now figuring out and decrying the fact that there is a crapton of money and attention available in the Wide World of Activism (especially causes with a clear victim-villain-vindicator model that can be adhered to). Guess we only notice bad stuff when it's done by those outside of our own tribe!

 

:eek:

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I'm kind of amused by how many people are just now figuring out and decrying the fact that there is a crapton of money and attention available in the Wide World of Activism (especially causes with a clear victim-villain-vindicator model that can be adhered to)

Maybe the average person, but right-wing AM talk show radio guys have been doing this for decades.

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As a Christian I don't see this in my church by the people I attend Church with. I don't like being painted as an evil or stupid being. A couple recently passed away that had been a part of the Church I attend for quite some time. The wife passed away in March and the husband this past month. His whole family came today. We sang hymns that were their favorite hymns instead of the ones printed in the bulletin, spent the service consoling the sad and were welcoming to their gay son who's not exactly welcome in other Churches. What I find important about Church is that people who want to live Christian provide support to the little, the least and the lost. The family usually attends a larger Church closer to home but they came to our tiny Church because they felt okay enough to cry openly and express sadness and anger at a situation beyond comprehension. Regardless of whether you believe in heaven our job as people of God is to be their to help in time of need.

 

The rambling point to this is that Christianity as God envisioned it is a very socialist society supporting the vulnerable. Kind of the opposite of what we see painted in media.

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