ShadowDog Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Is he an interesting character at all? Like ... at all? So far he's the most boring Stark by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevil Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 It will be interesting if he becomes Ramsey Bolton's new hostage/plaything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Garrison said it on Twitter, but it seems to really point heavily toward the A+J=T theory. I'm not sold on it yet, but it's looking that way.Refresher. A, J, and T are?Aerys + Joanna = Tyrion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Ray Kenobi Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I think the last episode actually gave a shred of credence to that theory. Those dragons don't exactly take a liking to just anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I think the last episode actually gave a shred of credence to that theory. Those dragons don't exactly take a liking to just anybody.Agreed, though Tyrion's exchange with Missandei provides a convenient alternate explanation, as well. It could still go either way. In the books, Barristan was obviously holding back with Daenerys when discussing Aerys and Joanna, so GRRM is teasing us bigtime if Tyrion isn't Madking Spawn. Smart money's on it, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Potential show spoilers regarding cast below. According to Wikipedia, Osha, Rickon and Thoros of Myr will all be back this season... then again, Shae is listed too, so I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Potential show spoilers regarding cast below. According to Wikipedia, Osha, Rickon and Thoros of Myr will all be back this season... then again, Shae is listed too, so I don't know. Drogo may be making an appearance as well. My guess would be flashback scenes -- maybe tied to Bran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 That's what I think too especially regarding Shae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 My only issue with the Tyrion thing is that how many secret Targaryans can there be? On the other hand, there are 3 dragons that need riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 It's even a bigger problem in the books, considering Aegon, but yeah. I'm not a really a fan of the theory but I can deal with it. And like you said, he'd be a bastard, though Targaryen bastards can still accomplish a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Aegon is a Blackfyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Dameron Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 BTW, as to the underwhelming return of Jon Snow, here's how I would have handled it: Bran's visions begin in the first episode and are featured more prominently.Jon's body pretty much does as it did. Really no need for a change in storyline there up until the end.Bran goes through the history of the Robert's Rebellion, getting all he needs, and I'm sure gaining some disillusionment about his father.Melisandre attempts to revive Jon and seemingly fails.They take Jon's body to the pyre for burning and set it on fire that night.Bran's flashbacks reach their conclusion and Jon is revealed as the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark.As the fire touches him, Jon's eyes open. Echoing Daenerys's rebirth, Jon walks out of the consumed pyre untouched by the flames.The Night's Watch and the wildlings effectively have their jaws drop to the floor.Melisandre makes note that he was reborn amidst salt (tears from his friends) and smoke.Crane shot of naked Jon standing in front of everyone, all illuminated by the fire burning behind him.Cut to credits. Would that have been better than the most telegraphed surprise eye opener ever? Maybe it would have taken an extra episode to get to, but I think it would have been worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 That's not bad but I don't think the problem was execution. I think it was the 10 month wait. Nobody believed he was going to stay dead and all the lying in the world wasn't going to change that. So with 10 months to dwell on it and speculate anything they did was going to feel underwhelming. What they should have done was kill him in episode 9 last season and resurrect him in episode 10 at the very end. That's still a very good cliffhanger. I've been dying all week waiting to see how everyone reacts to him being back alive and what happens next and if Jon comes back wrong. That's a damned good cliffhanger and doesn't require lame assed lying and retarded secrecy for 10 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 My only question is how did Missandei get from Meereen to the Wall and when did she develop any kind of magical powers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 She's had magic all series. Or do you mean where did it come from before the show started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Missandei is Dany's handmaiden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Oh sorry. I assumed a misspelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poe Dameron Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Oops, copy/paste fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Never have I felt so happy to see a little boy swing. LMFAO Other than that mostly a setup episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Tough kid. Good episode, but like SD said, mostly setup. These ones are always a lot more interesting when binge-watching the season again at a later date. I'm as annoyed as Bran at not getting to follow Ned up the stairs yet. Patience. Patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerina Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 On a scale of "impossible" to "never gonna happen" what's the likelihood that Lyanna is NOT giving birth to Jon up those steps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I'm actually sad Ser Alliser is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I'm not. fuck that traitor. But I'm rewatching season 1 right now and HOLY CRAP that actor has aged in 6 years. He looks like 15 years older now than then. Speaking of ... does show time match real time? Is it 6 years since the pilot episode? More? Less? No time jump between seasons 5 and 6. I think there have been in prior seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 In the books maybe a year or two has passed. Who knows how the show is handling Bran sprouting from child to gorilla size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Who knows how the show is handling Bran sprouting from child to gorilla size.Hodor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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