DANA-kin Skywalker 354 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 It appears that women are getting better represented in this new movie. One whole woman in the galaxy in ANH, and now look where we are. Not only does it seem to be doing the female fans justice, but a side benefit is it also adds a level of realism as well. Link to post Share on other sites
The Choc 1,618 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 It appears that women are getting better represented in this new movie. One whole woman in the galaxy in ANH, and now look where we are. Not only does it seem to be doing the female fans justice, but a side benefit is it also adds a level of realism as well.One woman? C'mon, Aunt Beru, Mon Mothma, the chick Jabba has killed. So, I mean 4 women. That's alot. Link to post Share on other sites
DANA-kin Skywalker 354 Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 Haha. 1.33 per movie. And that's counting the ones that don't matter. Link to post Share on other sites
Mara Jade Skywalker 958 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 It appears that women are getting better represented in this new movie. One whole woman in the galaxy in ANH, and now look where we are. Not only does it seem to be doing the female fans justice, but a side benefit is it also adds a level of realism as well.Kathleen Kennedy is my new favorite person for calling this out in the middle of the panel. And she was wearing Her Universe!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Stevil 159 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 There's only more women in the movie because the feminists moaned. If it's crap because they shoehorned more women in then you know who to blame. Oh and I'm not sure Leia gets handed a lightsaber. I think it's Leia handing it to Daisy Ridley's character. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucas1138 1,730 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 If it's crap because they shoehorned more women in then you know who to blame. The people who wrote it? Link to post Share on other sites
Stevil 159 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 If it's crap because they shoehorned more women in then you know who to blame. The people who wrote it?No the feminists. They moaned when the first picture of the cast was revealed at the script read through. There were only two women pictured (Fisher and Ridley). So they kicked up a fuss as the ratio of men to women in the picture was unfair apparently... Link to post Share on other sites
Lucas1138 1,730 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Hm. Okay. Link to post Share on other sites
Driver 4,539 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Yeah, if you add to many to anything it is automatically ruined. What? Link to post Share on other sites
DANA-kin Skywalker 354 Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 As a kid for some reason I thought snow troopers were girls. Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Krawlie 5,891 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Women ruin EVERYTHING. Link to post Share on other sites
Mara Jade Skywalker 958 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 There's only more women in the movie because the feminists moaned. If it's crap because they shoehorned more women in then you know who to blame. Oh and I'm not sure Leia gets handed a lightsaber. I think it's Leia handing it to Daisy Ridley's character.It must really make you angry that a woman is in charge of Star Wars right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Stevil 159 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Not at all Mara. In fact I think Kathy Kennedy seems like a lovely person with a lot of passion for the franchise who's determined to make a success of this new movie. I don't dislike women at all. In fact I'm married to one and I have two daughters. I just dislike the notion that there should be equal numbers of each gender in everything. If the story's written that way then fine. But the idea of squeezing more women (or men for that matter) in to anything for the sake of supposed equality is just nuts. It starts off like this but then it gets taken to the Nth degree and you'll end up with a male and a female president serving together. Link to post Share on other sites
DANA-kin Skywalker 354 Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 I just dislike the notion that there should be equal numbers of each gender in everything. If the story's written that way then fine. But the idea of squeezing more women (or men for that matter) in to anything for the sake of supposed equality is just nuts. It starts off like this but then it gets taken to the Nth degree and you'll end up with a male and a female president serving together.LOL! So it's a slippery slope, and it all starts with a star wars movie? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Without RotJ we wouldn't have gay marriage. Link to post Share on other sites
Stevil 159 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Yep that and the abhorrently all female new Ghostbusters Movie. Link to post Share on other sites
Metropolis 730 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Are you guys serious about the gender thing? I was making a joke. Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowDog 2,168 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Welcome to Nightly, where people would rather argue about stupid shit than nerd out over cool shit. Link to post Share on other sites
The Human Torch 1,074 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 It wasn't always that way. Before the dark times. Before the Blackout. Link to post Share on other sites
Mara Jade Skywalker 958 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I'll just one last thing on the subject, because I'd rather talk about how awesome that trailer was, too: It's not about having an equal number of men and women. Or people of color. Or gay people. Or whatever. It's about representation for all, and reflecting real life--or in the case of Star Wars, a universe in which beings come in a variety of shapes and colors. As Kathleen Kennedy said, to have only two major female characters just doesn't make sense. (Ever watch Revenge of the Sith? Not only is Padme thrown under the bus, but she's the only woman that talks in the entire movie.) And why shouldn't there be an equal number of men and women when that's how the world works? I have seen so many little girls at Celebration dressed as Sabine and Hera and it makes me so so happy that they have more female characters to look up to and identify with, not just Leia and Padme. Not to mention the little boys who scramble to take pictures with Hera and Sabine, or the little boy who was even dressed up as Sabine. Also, this: https://instagram.com/p/1m0e96h-kz/ Link to post Share on other sites
Stevil 159 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I agree with you to an extent Mara. In fact I was pleased to hear Kathy Kennedy was talking about more strong female characters in the films to come during the panel at SW Celebration. Hopefully they will write the strong parts for them to be in first and not bow to demand and add characters just because a certain section believes it didn't add up to their idea of representation. I think the writers need to be stronger personally and start writing more movies and TV shows with more female representation. One of my favourite TV shows is "Orange is the New Black" which has a female dominated cast. You won't catch me counting the number of women in the series and then kicking up a fuss because males aren't represented equally in an all-women prison. I also believe that Marvel need to add a female superhero lead to their franchise. In fact, why not two. I was only thinking the other day that it would be cool to gender flip Spiderman. I would watch that movie. Link to post Share on other sites
Justus 319 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 As Kathleen Kennedy said, to have only two major female characters just doesn't make sense.[Mon Mothma]"W--what?? Did I have a bulge in my pants or something? Is that why you skipped over me? I. Was. Running. The. Show in ROTJ. Damn it!!"[/Mon Mothma] Link to post Share on other sites
The Human Torch 1,074 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 You reference a character that didn't hold a weapon or captain a ship so therefore it's a shallow representation of an authoritative female role in society. Please refrain from trying to justify your sexist views of history both real and fantasy. Link to post Share on other sites
Driver 4,539 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 As Kathleen Kennedy said, to have only two major female characters just doesn't make sense.[Mon Mothma]"W--what?? Did I have a bulge in my pants or something? Is that why you skipped over me? I. Was. Running. The. Show in ROTJ. Damn it!!"[/Mon Mothma] Major role meaning starring role, not the imaginary plot narrative version of importance. Mon Mothma may have been the leader of the Alliance but she had once scene and just a few lines. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Plus she was more enjoyable in her fight against Godzilla. Link to post Share on other sites
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