Guest El Chalupacabra Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 The only.. and I mean ONLY thing that gives me pause is that this lends a bit of credence to the whole lightsaber and hand in space rumor. I really hope that there is some bit of truth to it-- but the details are the result of a game of telephone. That is 100% Anakin's second saber/Luke's first that was lost on Bespin that's being handed off. The rest of it-- holy cow. I got giddy.The melted Vader mask immediately made me think of the one in the concept art in this link:http://nerdreactor.com/2014/10/15/leaked-star-wars-episode-vii-art/ I also question who's metal hand that was on R2D2. I assumed it was Luke at first, but could it also be the cyborg in the concept art? Also.. when Luke is giving his monolog. He says "My father HAS it..." Present tense.... Isn't that just the ROTJ dialogue with Leia at the Ewok village?Not quite-- in ROTJ he says "My father has it... I have it.. My SISTER has it..." and he's talking to Leia. No "You have it too" is needed. Yeah, I thought the monologue was lifted from ROTJ too, until the you have it too part. I am wondering if that is either a recent monologue, or maybe an unused out take from ROTJ. In any event, the present tense of Luke referring to his "Father "HAS IT" (the force), is IMHO either an intentional misdirection, or simply something that indicates they lifted the monologue from ROTJ. Anakin\Vader is dead, so unless Luke is referring to a force ghost (I guess its possible, and they may try to shoe horn in HC..I hope not though), it doesn't make sense. *Another comment: Rey (the Daisy Ridley character) visually looks like Jan Ors from the Dark Forces\Jedi Knight games, and Kylo Ren looks like Darth Revan from the KOTOR games. I wonder if that was done on purpose, or coincidence. **Yet another question\comment: Is "Kylo" a first name, or a title like Darth? Could Ren be an allusion to "renegade," sort of like Sidious is to insidious, or Vader is to invader, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 "You have that power too" is from Return of the Jedi. The lines are just rearranged. "You're wrong, Leia. You have that power too. In time, you will learn to use it as I have." ... "The force is strong in my family. My father has it, I have it, and my sister has it. Yes, it's you, Leia." At Mark Hamill's panel tonight (which I sadly didn't get into, but it was streamed and I had a friend there who tweeted) he said the voiceover is a combination of the RotJ takes and a new recording which he did last week. They combined the two to create the reverb effect. That's why he says "my father has it," because they took the line directly from Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I'll bet anything the "Chewie, we're home" line comes after they step on the Falcon for the first time in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copper Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 For me, the most exciting thing about the trailer is the battle on what appears to be a hangar deck. Those ships look REAL- nothing like the strange CGI dreams of The Return of the Sith. so excite all around, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbleh Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 For me, the most exciting thing about the trailer is the battle on what appears to be a hangar deck. Those ships look REAL- nothing like the strange CGI dreams of The Return of the Sith. so excite all around, tho. I don't think many people would be able to pick out a CGI element in a shot like that these days; they might look like part of a physical set, but they might not be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 That wasn't recycled dialogue. That was Mark Hamill saying it anew.No way. That was totally 30 year old Hamill. Right? Right...? The voiceover has like a weird echo effect to part of it too. It doesn't sound exactly like Luke in ROTJ but it could be post production. I don't see him saying the exact same lines in this movie. I was at Star Wars Celebration VII this past weekend in Anaheim. During Mark Hamill's panel, Mark confirmed this is the dialogue from ROTJ, but in order to get that echo-y breathy effect, Lucasfilm recorded him saying it over again and then they edited it together right over the old ROTJ dialogue. That's what we hear play in the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 & 6 years to go... Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 The only.. and I mean ONLY thing that gives me pause is that this lends a bit of credence to the whole lightsaber and hand in space rumor. I really hope that there is some bit of truth to it-- but the details are the result of a game of telephone. That is 100% Anakin's second saber/Luke's first that was lost on Bespin that's being handed off. The rest of it-- holy cow. I got giddy. Also.. when Luke is giving his monolog. He says "My father HAS it..." Present tense....Weren't all those words, albeit not in the same order, from his conversation with Leia in ROTJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 What the hell do they make those spaceships out of in the galaxy far, far away, that they can crash nearly intact? I'd typically expect something as big as a Star Destroyer to be smashed to pieces before it hit the ground! And that X-wing, also mostly intact, rather than scattered over the whole of the desert?? They must be made of unobtainium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 They must have been piloted by Deanna Troi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 What the hell do they make those spaceships out of in the galaxy far, far away, that they can crash nearly intact? I'd typically expect something as big as a Star Destroyer to be smashed to pieces before it hit the ground! And that X-wing, also mostly intact, rather than scattered over the whole of the desert?? They must be made of unobtainium.Unobtanium-plated midichlorians, presumably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberSix Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 They must have been piloted by Deanna Troi.I was thinking Launchpad McQuack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Wader Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It could of already been close to the surface before it crashed, maybe an assault on something on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Deanna Troi piloted the Enterprise-D as it crashed into a planet in TNG's first movie. I didn't just reference her as a joke; Some people, including Marina Sirtis, knock jokingly or otherwise this moment because in a classic sexist way a women crashes a vehicle. Flip the script. Did Troi crash the ship or did she pilot it heroically, expertly even, to allow a soft landing as the ship crashed? Anyway. Picked that drop intentionally to say that. Problems we struggle against are real, some problems can be resolved by choosing to not be offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 My son's first video experience with Star Wars was this trailer. He clapped at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevil Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 My son's first video experience with Star Wars was this trailer. He clapped at the end.Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 My son's first video experience with Star Wars was this trailer. He clapped at the end. That's brave of you to show him since you'd have had to kick him out if he didn't clap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Cool Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'll bet anything the "Chewie, we're home" line comes after they step on the Falcon for the first time in years. It would be funny if that was the last scene in the movie...and we'd not seen Han and Chewie at all until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 My son's first video experience with Star Wars was this trailer. He clapped at the end.That's brave of you to show him since you'd have had to kick him out if he didn't clap If you're old enough to cry for a snack 20 minutes after breakfast, you're old enough to watch the Star Wars trailer while I try to distract you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Skywalker Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 What the hell do they make those spaceships out of in the galaxy far, far away, that they can crash nearly intact? I'd typically expect something as big as a Star Destroyer to be smashed to pieces before it hit the ground! And that X-wing, also mostly intact, rather than scattered over the whole of the desert?? They must be made of unobtainium.LOL, my co-workers and I were talking about how the only thing left should be a crater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I'll bet anything the "Chewie, we're home" line comes after they step on the Falcon for the first time in years. It would be funny if that was the last scene in the movie...and we'd not seen Han and Chewie at all until then.That would be break the internet hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 What the hell do they make those spaceships out of in the galaxy far, far away, that they can crash nearly intact? I'd typically expect something as big as a Star Destroyer to be smashed to pieces before it hit the ground! And that X-wing, also mostly intact, rather than scattered over the whole of the desert?? They must be made of unobtainium.LOL, my co-workers and I were talking about how the only thing left should be a crater. That's based on it being a crash from space. It easily could have been a controlled descent without the ability to fully land. Something a little better than Anakin landing the ship in RotS. But Star Wars has never worried about being scientifically accurate, thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 Yeah-- case in point a hand falling from space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 OK, yeah, the Star Destroyer could've been in hover mode above or near a target, and fallen intact. But that X-wing would've smashed to pieces! They don't hover while in combat, and their kinetic energy has to be distributed somewhere! I don't care what genre SW is, physics is physics! I wonder if anyone on Jakku has settled into the crashed Star Destroyer. They're huge, and surely someone would take up residence there. A whole town, in fact. I also wonder why the Empire - excuse me, First Order - didn't retrieve it. It looks damn near intact, ready to shake off some dunes and go to orbit. Maybe all it needs is a jump start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Maybe Jakku is small and thus has less gravity than say earth, so it just gently fell to the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Hey - don't bring reason in this thread. That's my thing. You're stealing my shtick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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