Ms. Spam Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 But Cruz's speech makes me think he's on crack because in his world - he won! I also hope Carson stays in the race longer because he'll hurt Cruz while Jeb dropping out helps Rubio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 But Cruz's speech makes me think he's on crack because in his world - he won! I also hope Carson stays in the race longer because he'll hurt Cruz while Jeb dropping out helps Rubio.Come on. Rubio barely squeezed by him. Carson staying in is not as big a deal to Cruz as some believe. Carson's biggest support base--evangelicals--are not going to stay on his sinking ship just to get Cruz. That would be a pointless stand to make.Assuming (in the bigger picture) they fear a Hillary presidency, they will need to support someone who has serious chance. Right now, that's Cruz or the most fake religious candidate of all, Trump. So, they will need to make a deal with the devil(s)...or say hello to President Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 Are you a serious Cruz supporter, or do you seriously think Cruz would have a chance in a general election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Are you a serious Cruz supporter, or do you seriously think Cruz would have a chance in a general election?No, i'm not Cruz supporter, but the anti-Democrat gas fueling the right is so explosive that it created the perfect environment where Cruz could win. 2008...no. 2012--in the wake of the Tea Party's rise, the anger was there, but they needed additional Obama years (and events such as the SC's ruling on gay marriage, apparent weakness in dealing with terror and Putin) to finally push most of the Right factions to support a candidate who is--frankly--more "balls to the wall." Meaning, being the extreme opposite of Obama. That's Cruz, more than Trump on his worst day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Cruz could win....the GOP nomination. Especially since the GOP primaries in some states are sort of like the Electoral College and it's winner take all (never liked that method in primaries, but whatever). But in a general? Nope. I don't think so. Cruz gets curb stomped by Sanders, at least in this poll.http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-cruz-vs-sandersSo does Trump http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-cruz-vs-sanders Cruz does slightly better VS Clinton, but still loses:http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-cruz-vs-clintonTrump loses against Clinton as wellhttp://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Mathison Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Cruz could win....the GOP nomination. Especially since the GOP primaries in some states are sort of like the Electoral College and it's winner take all (never liked that method in primaries, but whatever). Wha? ? Dude, Trump is polling ahead of Cruz in every single state except Texas, where Cruz has a 1% lead. In most states, Trump is leading by double digits over Cruz, and in some states (like Massachusetts), he has a 40% lead. Please, tell me Cruz's path to the nomination. I would love to hear this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 People in Texas are on stupid crack. Or at least the ones that pollsters call. I think the GOP needs to embrace Trump and welcome his weirdo ass into the fold now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 If you would've told me Trump would be the nominee a year ago, even six months ago, I'd have laughed in your face. Now I'm starting to think he has a legitimate chance to win the whole thing. It's sickeningly surreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 People in Texas are on stupid crack. Or at least the ones that pollsters call. I think the GOP needs to embrace Trump and welcome his weirdo ass into the fold now.If more of the establishment had done so earlier, he may not have done as well. He really needed the outsider angle. But on the other hand, every whiny liberal i know has been posting nothing but Trump online for months, and I don't think we can ignore that as excellent publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 If you would've told me Trump would be the nominee a year ago, even six months ago, I'd have laughed in your face. Now I'm starting to think he has a legitimate chance to win the whole thing. It's sickeningly surreal.The only candidate I actually liked dropped out several months ago. The last one I find remotely tolerable (distinct from liking) has virtually zero chance of winning. Clinton is a triangulating crook, Bernie is a well-meaning but incompetent simp, Trump is... Trump, Rubio is an empty suit filled with creepy chattering pro-life (yet strangely, hawkish and flesh-eating) insects, Cruz is literally the spawn of Satan, and Carson is just rambling insanity with a smile. At this point, might as well embrace the horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Cruz could win....the GOP nomination. Especially since the GOP primaries in some states are sort of like the Electoral College and it's winner take all (never liked that method in primaries, but whatever).Wha? ? Dude, Trump is polling ahead of Cruz in every single state except Texas, where Cruz has a 1% lead. In most states, Trump is leading by double digits over Cruz, and in some states (like Massachusetts), he has a 40% lead. Please, tell me Cruz's path to the nomination. I would love to hear this. I agree Trump is far ahead right now, and I am not saying he isn't the likely winner. I am saying it is within the realm of possibility, if winner take all states like CA, IL, FL, and TX go to Cruz, that Cruz could take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Wow, lot of desperation setting in here, vicious haymakers, and the crowd is nutty. Best debate ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Whoa. I seriously just expected Wolfy to call security and drag Cruz out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Gatdamnit. I miss the best ones because I'm doing my Masters classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 Well for me, "best" just means they are yelling and throwing insults at each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Trump gave Cruz some good burns. I loved the one where he said something like Cruz doesn't have one single Republican friend in the senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Wow, lot of desperation setting in here, vicious haymakers, and the crowd is nutty. Best debate ever?For a minute, I thought you were referring to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Christie endorsed Trump...and the anti-Rubio insults continued. I cannot say I find it silly or disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Justus beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Christie endorsed Trump... And so did David Duke, essentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I find it funny the Trump is demonized by the media the same way Duke was. I just love the way Trump pisses off the liberal media that much. As for Duke, who else do you expect him to endorse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 What's awesome (and it's fortunate, really) is that people like David Duke are so busy trying to convince the world of their racist agenda, they are tone deaf to how toxic their endorsement really is. If David Duke had any sense at all, and he really wanted to help Trump get elected, he should have come out for Hillary Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 People who fear and loathe Trump will try to make it as big of a deal as possible, but I don't see it mattering a whole lot. Duke spoke warmly of Trump last summer, and Trump's response was basically "So what? I'll disavow it if it makes you feel better." He obviously didn't care (or did a good job pretending he didn't care), and the issue went away in a few minutes. Now that Trump is more of a clear and present danger, a lot more time will be spent trying to make this a dealbreaker, but given how no other line of attack has been particularly effective, I don't see why this one will be. I thought Trump's lines about Mexican rapists and blocking Muslims would hurt him or at least create an impossibly low ceiling of support, but he's still doing fine in the primaries, and his ceiling appears to be getting higher, if anything. BTW... David Duke said Obama was a better choice than Romney in 2012, and Romney still got destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 BTW... David Duke said Obama was a better choice than Romney in 2012, and Romney still got destroyed. I vaguely remember that, and had to google it to refresh my memory. Duke was endorsing Obama over Romney in 2012 because basically Duke hated Jewish people more than black people that election cycle. Had something to do with some twisted idea that the Jewish people were the puppet masters of the Federal government and at least Obama, being black, probably would be hostile towards Jewish people. But as I recall, there was a lot of republicans staying home in both 2008 and 2012 to "teach the GOP a lesson" because if Obama got elected, America would be destroyed enough to wake everyone up to this vast liberal conspiracy, and see how bad it really was. And the hope was some Reagan-like figure would ride in on a white horse and rescue America in 2016. Now that 2016 is here, two things: 1. Oddly, the US and the world didn't collapse2. Reagan-like figure never appeared. The best the GOP have to offer is Trump, Cruz, or Rubio. Pathetic. Yet hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 Sorry -- my comment about Duke/Romney was flippant (hence the emoticon). My point was just that who Duke likes or dislikes isn't that relevant to most people. Regarding ****ty offerings by the GOP, I disagree. There have been a LOT of talented candidates this time around. Of the people who are left, only Carson doesn't make any sense to me:If you want a Neocon, Rubio is a great candidate!If you want a Bible Thumping Culture Warrior,* Cruz is a great candidate!If you want a Angry Populist, Trump is a great candidate!If you want a Consensus Builder, Kasich is a great candidate!The only issue for me is that they run between "tolerable" (Kasich) to "utterly loathable" (Cruz), so there is nobody to be excited for -- as I've said a few times, I only tune in for the fighting. And as somebody who is not in love with either party, but generally turned off by a lot Republican policy and rhetoric, I imagine you are in a similar boat as me. But for American conservatives/Republicans, this has been a great year. Lots of variety and the level of engagement has been historic. On a similar note, the Sanders/Clinton primaries have been pretty good, too. Less variety, but have really helped bring more focus on issues of income inequality and where we go forward with health care, which I heartily approve of. *just can't bring myself to believe his followers actually care about the Constitution.... or that he has followers in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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