Mara Jade Skywalker Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 Well, he's definitely your kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 HE'S NOT WRONG! Thrawn is my least favorite thing about Rebels right now. I'm way more into shifty Mandalorians and former Sith Lords. I get they needed a villain that wasn't Vader, or a knock off of Vader, or a character from the movies we know the fate of-- but with Thrawn they've doubled down on the very things that made Zahn's trilogy fall apart for me. I've never, ever liked this sort of villain who has the power of having basically read the script they re a part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 *shakes head* I so missed these debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I look forward to seeing how they take Thrawn out of the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 They can't. He'll see it coming. Look, I'd buy it if they spent time on his deductions. It's like reading the last page of a Sherlock Holmes story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 They do though? I'm actually enjoying him way more in Rebels because I feel Iike they do more to show his deductions. He's definitely my favorite part of the show, haha. I also wonder how they're going to end Thrawn's storyline. I hope they don't kill him, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do. I'm hoping for him being exiled so they can bring him back later on in book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrian Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I'm still hoping we see Pellaeon at some point, even if it's just a cameo. I don't think it'll happen, but he was definitely one of my favourite EU Imperials. Not a genius, not a super soldier, just a hard-working officer that's the backbone of any military, doing his best to keep things from falling apart and trying to maintain tradition in his own way. One of my favourite scenes with him is one of the first scenes, where a junior officer yells across the bridge at him about a contact, and he calmly responds and tells him off for yelling. That's the kind of officer I want to see, not the lieutenant we saw in the latest Fulcrum episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevil Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Aye they do show Thrawn explain his thoughts and deductions. This was particularly apparent when he deduced Kallus was Fulcrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Huh. Guess I still don't buy it. I'm just not a fan of this type of villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I don't like his type of villain when too many of the villains are like this, but I like him as a change of pace. We've seen consistently throughout the show that most of the Imperial officers are relatively incompetent and mainly are able to thwart the rebels due to the sheer discrepancy in numbers and resources. The main core Imperial we saw not like this was Tarkin. The other main, consistent threats have been Force users. Aside from Vader and Maul, they were pretty solidly enigmas who always just ended up being present to go against Phoenix squadron and could stop them due to their Force use. I remember this being a plot point of figuring out how they were always there, but I don't recall how it was resolved. To me, Thrawn provides a great counter to those types of villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Yup. After the Grand Inquisitor, the other Inquisitors, and random blank slate admirals, Thrawn is a nice change of pace. Re: Twin Suns - lololololololololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 That seems about right. I am also glad they didn't use the obnoxious version of the theme at the end of the episode, which always makes me groan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Nice episode. Loved the confrontation, but not much else. So now Ezra will just go on with the Rebellion with the knowledge that Kenobi is alive and hiding something, just like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good God a Bear Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Good episode, but the "fight" between Kenobi and Maul was a HUGE letdown for me. If they hadn't built it up in the previews it would be a completely different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevil Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 There was a part just before they fought where Kenobi sensed something wrong with Maul. I thought the fight was very short and I'm not sure Kenobi actually struck him down or Maul was just at his end anyway. Like he'd existed only to get to that point and when he did he didn't have anything left in him. To my mind Kenobi only destroyed his weapon. Then there was the end where Maul even had hope. Strange and open to interpretation I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Maul was cut in half once and survived and I'm somehow supposed to believe he is dead now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevil Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 He was a Force Phenomenon. He died when it was his time. The circle was complete. BTW: If u watch the scene again Obi-Wan took Qui-Gon's stance after taking his Clone Wars stance. Then Maul attacked him with the same strikes as he did to kill Qui-Gon only for Obi-Wan to block all and defeat him. Very nice touch I'm also glad the fight was brief because for Obi-Wan to have a prolonged fight would diminish his ANH self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 It was a very samurai movie style showdown, so part of me liked it. But yeah, more would have been cool-- it didn't have to be a bunch of flippy jumpy PT style stuff-- maybe just 3 passes against each other, instead of one, with more cool dialog between them.Also-- Luke as the chosen one is apparently canon now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 My take on the Chosen One thing is that Obi Wan is wrong. Obi Wan believes it is Anakin, Anakin fails. Obi Wan can't conceive that Anakin will ever come back and be good. So at the point of this confrontation with Maul Obi Wan figures that they were wrong about Anakin. The Chosen One is going to bring balance to the Force, Anakin did not do this. He assumes that the prophecy was misread and that the Chosen One must be Anakin's child, because he's given up on Anakin ever fulfilling the purpose of the Chosen One. However we ofcourse know that Obi Wan was wrong and that Anakin did in fact end up fulfilling the prophecy in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 But he wouldn't have if not for Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Darth Hunter Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 BTW: If u watch the scene again Obi-Wan took Qui-Gon's stance after taking his Clone Wars stance. Then Maul attacked him with the same strikes as he did to kill Qui-Gon only for Obi-Wan to block all and defeat him. Very nice touch I'm also glad the fight was brief because for Obi-Wan to have a prolonged fight would diminish his ANH self. It was a very samurai movie style showdown, so part of me liked it. But yeah.more would have been cool...Very perceptive on both your parts. You caught what the creators were going for in the duel: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 But he wouldn't have if not for Luke. The reason I stick with Anakin being the chosen one is because it seems that a major part of the prophecy is that The Chosen One would be born of The Force or without a father. This obviously applies to Anakin and not Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Maybe you're dipping into the EU-- but far as I could tell, Qui-Gon theorized that part. Either way, there's a lot of gaps in a flimsy idea, and I never much liked it to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I've never read EU, Im going from TPM. When Qui Gon is talking to Shmi when she mentions there was no father, Qui Gon takes notice. Now ofcourse most people would take notice of that, but still. Secondly when Qui Gon is reporting to the Council about him he says "its possible he was concieved by the Force" or something like that. Mace immediately replies "you refer to the prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the Force." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Since Rebels loves to dig back into old material from drafts and concept art, I wish they'd gone with the Son of Suns concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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