Guest El Chalupacabra Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The only thing they've done wrong by fandom is de-canonize the EU... which in a few years no one will care about save for a select few. Not to mention that even though EU is de-canonized, it remains to be seen how much of it is actually disregarded. Some, I'd say a lot of it, may not necessarily be contradicted by the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 The only thing they've done wrong by fandom is de-canonize the EU... which in a few years no one will care about save for a select few.That depends on how much everyone likes Episode VII! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I don't care what other people think of Star Wars. It won't bomb and Disney won't shelve it. My kids and I will be able to enjoy that galaxy from a long time ago for the rest of our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 To add to the EU canon/Disney canon discussion earlier in this thread, Palpatine's first name has been revealed as Sheev. Sheev Palpatine. Somebody shoot me.Wat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doze Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 So Rebels, show rocks right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryn Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I've heard lots of speculation, from Augustus/Augie to Cos, supposedly taken from early drafts. In Darth Plagueis Luceno used Cosigna as Palpatine's father's name, and it was strongly suggested that Palpatine had the same first name but didn't go by it because he hated his father. It would've been nice to keep it that way. There was really no need to know Palpatine's name ever. I don't even like calling him Sidious. He's just Palpatine. But, anyway. At least his name's not Kallus. I'll have to find my copy, but I think there is a preamble in the "Star Wars" novelization with the "Cos" usage. I don't know if that was retained in later printings or re-issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 I'm pretty sure it wasn't. My copy doesn't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Cos Dashit was a character in early drafts. Guess how I remember the name. Go ahead. Guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Because you're a big Bill Cosby fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Minor spoilers for upcoming episodes: One of the upcoming episodes is called Empire Day. I am very intrigued by this. Apparently another episode will be about the Imperial Academy, which makes me very happy. If only my favorite TIE pilot could be in it...or Han... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 To clarify my comment, it seemed before that there was a certain sacredness to Star Wars that George Lucas wished preserved. Things like Palpatine's name and Yoda's species left a certain sense of mystery to the saga, and as such, these topics were forbidden. I'm not getting the same feeling from Disney so far. I wouldn't be surprised if the revelation of Yoda as a Pupudu from the planet Pupodia isn't far off. Nothing is sacred with Disney. Star Wars is mostly an investment to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 But George was the one who came up with the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 He also came up with Yaddle.......and Elan Sleazebaggano, Finis Valorum, Wilhuf Tarkin, Savage Opress. When you start making complete gibberish names up where do you draw the line between silly and serious? Sure, Sheev is stupid, but this is hardly a thing to suddenly use as evidence that Disney is OMG RUINING EVERYTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Don't forget Conan Antonio Motti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Once again, my problem isn't with the name itself but the fact that they revealed it, and that it tells me more mystery-destroying revelations are likely on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryn Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I'm pretty sure it wasn't. My copy doesn't have it. Sorry. I meant the 1976 edition. It has a "Soon to be a major motion picture!" starburst on its cover. Like explained here under the "Opening Scenes" header. Foster pulled details from earlier drafts, but I'm not sure if most are backed up by the Annotated Screenplays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Skywalker Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I have a 1976 or 1977 paperback. I don't remember Palpatine being mentioned at all until ESB. It has the Journal of the Whills preamble. Let me check it when I get home tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Wilhuf is a cool name. Its got pazaz. Like Wolfgang or something. NOW THATS A NAME. WOLFGANG. Sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I have a 1976 or 1977 paperback. I don't remember Palpatine being mentioned at all until ESB. It has the Journal of the Whills preamble. Let me check it when I get home tonight.Not in the story-- it was literally the first page, Journal of the Whills. It talked about the great Emperor being manipulated by his corrupt advisors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Actually, that would make sense from an in-universe perspective. The galaxy adores Palpatine during the Clone Wars and his approval rating is very high. Then all of a sudden, for no apparent reason, he begins to change drastically after his deformation at the hands of the Jedi. He becomes less likable and more tyrannical. Then all of a sudden these Moff guys start gaining power. From the perspective of a galaxy that is unaware of Palpatine's identity as the Dark Lord of the Sith, it is a conspiracy theory that makes perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doze Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Actually, that would make sense from an in-universe perspective. The galaxy adores Palpatine during the Clone Wars and his approval rating is very high. Then all of a sudden, for no apparent reason, he begins to change drastically after his deformation at the hands of the Jedi. He becomes less likable and more tyrannical. Then all of a sudden these Moff guys start gaining power. From the perspective of a galaxy that is unaware of Palpatine's identity as the Dark Lord of the Sith, it is a conspiracy theory that makes perfect sense.This is one of the reasons I hope the new Jedi Order gets rid of the attachment rule. The Jedi were a very insular organization, with few close relationships to people outside the Order (unless they were politicians or military folk). If more people had gotten a chance to actually know a Jedi as just a regular person, they wouldn't have been so quick to turn against them. When kindly old Chancellor Palpatine says the Jedi have threatened to take over the Republic, who are they going to believe--him or the Force monks who take babies from their families and don't have relationships with "regular" folk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Awesome. This show is everything I wanted Clone Wars to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacen123 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Once again, my problem isn't with the name itself but the fact that they revealed it, and that it tells me more mystery-destroying revelations are likely on the way.You mean like the midichlorians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 This is one of the reasons I hope the new Jedi Order gets rid of the attachment rule. The Jedi were a very insular organization, with few close relationships to people outside the Order (unless they were politicians or military folk). If more people had gotten a chance to actually know a Jedi as just a regular person, they wouldn't have been so quick to turn against them. When kindly old Chancellor Palpatine says the Jedi have threatened to take over the Republic, who are they going to believe--him or the Force monks who take babies from their families and don't have relationships with "regular" folk? Naive. People will turn against friends and neighbors readily when told these friends or neighbors, possessing a power and set of abilities that no one else does, are a threat to their safety and society's stability. Even if everyone in the galaxy knew a single Jedi as a friend (impossible anyway, given the relative populations), that fact wouldn't protect the organization as a whole. Order 66 and the 501st Legion would've struck at the local neighborhood Jedi temples rather than just the central Coruscant temple. The fall of the Jedi Order was not simply the result of bad PR on the Jedi Order's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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