Pong Messiah Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Warning: typical police behavior in following video. Cop Logic 101: tell a man to get his license... then shoot him when he reaches into his car to grab his license! Gotta love the "seatbelt violation" claim used as an excuse to harass and shoot the victim. Buckle up?South Carolina Department of Public Safety Director Leroy Smith fired Groubert September 19th after observing the video and reviewing a report from the State Law Enforcement Division. In dismissing Groubert, Smith called the facts of the case "disturbing." The charges filed Wednesday were brought by the Fifth Circuit Solicitor's office, which also reviewed SLED's findings. Groubert faces a maximum of 20 years in prison.Disturbing indeed. Thankfully, Jones was only injured by Groubert's psychotic idiocy. 20 years is probably too heavy, even for a shooty cop, but it's great the guy has been fired and had charges filed against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RelentlessMalice Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Totally unjustified. The only possible thing is how fast the guy turned around to get his wallet but even that is not good enough. Second why did the officer have his gun drawn? Thank God he was a bad shot and the other 3 bullets didnt hit anyone else. Bad police work and he should be fired and charged. I agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 20 years is probably too heavy, even for a shooty cop, but it's great the guy has been fired and had charges filed against him. I don't think it's too heavy for someone charged to fight crime. His actions undermine the legitimacy of every good officer out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsidian Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 20 years is probably too heavy, even for a shooty cop, but it's great the guy has been fired and had charges filed against him. I don't think it's too heavy for someone charged to fight crime. His actions undermine the legitimacy of every good officer out there. Agreed. It may be too heavy for an ordinary citizen, but cops should ALWAYS be held to a higher standard, and subject to more severe penalties when they break the law because of the power and authority they are given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 20 years is probably too heavy, even for a shooty cop, but it's great the guy has been fired and had charges filed against him. I don't think it's too heavy for someone charged to fight crime. His actions undermine the legitimacy of every good officer out there. Agreed. It may be too heavy for an ordinary citizen, but cops should ALWAYS be held to a higher standard, and subject to more severe penalties when they break the law because of the power and authority they are given. The fact that the guy will never be able to work in law enforcement and most likely spend some time in jail is enough for me. He's infamous, he is going to have to find a new career afterward. If he had killed or crippled the victim, I'd be clamoring for the maximum possible sentence, but since that is not the case, I'm just glad this was dealt with so quickly, and not another case of "just put him on paid leave while the public forgets about it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Maybe this cop and Zimmerman can form a support group. Miss-understood people with firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I'm not going to be upset if he doesn't get the max, but I still think that his actions warrant considering it. Based on the video and number of shots, I would say that the only reason the victim wasn't killed or crippled is because the cop was a bad shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Yeah, seriously. Thank goodness for crap aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copper Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 The video is insane. Somehow I doubt he'll be punished much, though. Poor dude that got shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 20 years is probably too heavy, even for a shooty cop, but it's great the guy has been fired and had charges filed against him. I don't think it's too heavy for someone charged to fight crime. His actions undermine the legitimacy of every good officer out there. I have to agree. Not only does the police have to be held to a higher standard, if Joe Civilian shot someone like that, they would be charged with the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 Yeah, still disagree, and I hate cops. With nobody killed or permanently injured, 20 years sounds like major overkill. Revenge or a "statement" more than justice -- but it's not going to make up for all the other police who wantonly kill people and pets, grope boobs, behave abusively etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 He intentionally SHOT someone. It was not an accident, and is a case of extreme negligence. What he is charged with is correct, IMHO. As to what the judge decides he gets, if found guilty, that's for the court to decide, but it definitely should be prison time. Chances are even if it isn't plead out, and he is found guilty, the judge won't give him 20 years, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 I do not think you are trying to put words in my mouth but just to be clear: I was not calling what this guy did an "accident," and I think he should spend some time in prison. All I'm saying is that -- in my opinion -- 20 years seems like too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolence Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Cops that break the law should get the death penalty. Even for speeding and seat belt violations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I do not think you are trying to put words in my mouth but just to be clear: I was not calling what this guy did an "accident," and I think he should spend some time in prison. All I'm saying is that -- in my opinion -- 20 years seems like too much.No, I am not, Pong. Sorry. I was just clarifying my opinion, and explaining why I think what I do.....if the judge said 5 years, I am cool with it. If he said 20, I am cool with that, too. But I think he was charged correctly, and definitely needs to go to prison. Oh and another thing, I don't hate good cops. In fact, I am of the opinion there are far more good cops, than bad ones. But that badge carries a lot of power, and while it should be respected, the police need to respect us as citizens, as well, and they should be held to an even higher standard than the average citizen. So if I seem harsh, that is the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryn Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 He intentionally SHOT someone. It was not an accident, and is a case of extreme negligence. What he is charged with is correct, IMHO. As to what the judge decides he gets, if found guilty, that's for the court to decide, but it definitely should be prison time. Chances are even if it isn't plead out, and he is found guilty, the judge won't give him 20 years, anyway. I think the message sent given a harsh sentence is a cop must kill the subject so he can control the narrative. This can be a lesson to sloppy shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 I actually got a tiny bit sick to my stomach reading that, Ryn. Because I think you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kurgan Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 20 years. He won't need that long. It won't take that long for the real justice system to do its thing once the guy's in the general prison population and word gets out of why he's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 He'd get out of prison in 20 years just as another cop was going in for the same thing. What message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeahhh buddy Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 "Are you hit?" I have a hole in my pants. Blood is coming out of said hole. You shot at me three times from five feet away. I'm amazed I'm still alive you dumb, inbred, trigger happy hick cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamonAtila Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I hate cops. I don't know you but I guess I have more cop horror stories. But I still think it's unfair to generalize them like that. I feel like if I profile them like that, I'm just as bad as a stinking cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeahhh buddy Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think cops have a difficult job. Like most people, I work in the private sector. I have a bad day, scew up a little at work, company makes less money. I screw up a lot I get fired. A cop has a bad day, screws up a little, he could lose his job and get him or someone else hurt. He screws up a lot, he could get himself or someone else killed. Cops are held up to a higher set of standards than civilians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 ^ you'd like to think so but that's not always the case. Being a cop is a job and cops are just people. So you're gonna get good'uns and wrong'uns. Unfortunately being a cop is attractive to people with deushey dispositions and I guess they make the name for themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeahhh buddy Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The job itself does attract deushey people, no doubt. However, the job can get dangerous, possiblly involving firearms and split second, reflex decisions with the adrenaline pumping. Hesitate and you could be in danger. Act too hastily someone could be in danger. You have to be tough and strong without going too far. You have to be strong, brave and intelligent under duress. I am glad I have a job where I sit behind a desk, mostly talking on the phone or typing on a computer. And when it gets tough I can always take a coffee break. I don't think I could handle being a cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 The job itself does attract deushey people, no doubt. However, the job can get dangerous, possiblly involving firearms and split second, reflex decisions with the adrenaline pumping. Hesitate and you could be in danger. Act too hastily someone could be in danger. You have to be tough and strong without going too far. You have to be strong, brave and intelligent under duress. Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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