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CONFIRMED: The Final Say on the EU's relation to the new films


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Lucasfilm has made an official statement:

 

http://starwars.com/...a-new-page.html

 

Here's a recap:

 

1. The new films will NOT follow any plots from the established post ROTJ EU

 

2. The movies, The Clone Wars animated series, and the Rebels animated series are the only official canon.

 

3. EU books, videogames and comics will continue, but continuity will now respect points 1 and 2

 

4. Existing EU material that does not fight with the scheme above will now be republished under the "Legends" banner, which is similar to Dark Horse Infinity line, or DCs Elseworlds. In other words, they are no longer part of canon, but considered alternate events. Fans are welcome to consider them alternate dimensions, timelines, or whatever else they need to better sleep at night. Popular EU material from this era, like Zahn's trilogy, will continue to be reprinted as long as it is popular.

 

5. All EU material is up for cherry-picking, but it does not mean the source material is canonized. Meaning, if they add Mara Jade into a future on-screen work, this does not canonize the stories she originated from. 


Edited by Driver, 25 April 2014 - 01:08 PM.

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I'm surprised they even bothered to say this out loud (I just assumed it'd be left to whoever's stuck in charge of the EU to square the circle of the films' inevitable differences) but this is a status quo more or less predictable from 30/10/12.

And yet somehow while I had patience enough to read well over a hundred Star Wars books I just can't summon the interest for the six minute YouTube video appended to the press release linked above.

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Well heres the funny thing-- NO this isn't anything new. This is more or less what most people have been saying for eons. But then there's those uber EU fans who make a lot of noise at you if you dare to sat the new movies aren't going to have Admiral Thrawn or Mara Jade. They make enough noise that Lucasfilm knows they have to say something official.

 

They found the safest way possible to placate them while shutting them down ensuring they will still be buying movie tickets.


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WOO HOO!

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Well heres the funny thing-- NO this isn't anything new. This is more or less what most people have been saying for eons. But then there's those uber EU fans who make a lot of noise at you if you dare to sat the new movies aren't going to have Admiral Thrawn or Mara Jade. They make enough noise that Lucasfilm knows they have to say something official.

 

They found the safest way possible to placate them while shutting them down ensuring they will still be buying movie tickets.

I still don't get why Disney is bothering to save some of its fans from some of its other fans from having arguments on the Internet.


WHEN I AM IN CHARGE OF STAR WARS THIS PRESS RELEASE WILL BE MADE NON-CANONICAL TOUT SUITE



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I have so many thoughts and feelings. Mostly right now I'm constantly reloading Facebook to see if they've posted the cover of the Luke novel. (They just posted it, I'm in love.) I got out my rage earlier. Still waiting for Episode VII to blow me away because there's no excuse for it not to. We'll see. I don't think my vision of the post-RotJ universe will mesh much with George's. 



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It's cool, George will spend the next 20 years explaining how he always intended his view a different way than it was actually presented.



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I don't think we're getting George's vision, we'll be seeing what people raised on Star Wars envision... Which is why I'm excited.


Edited by Driver, 25 April 2014 - 03:41 PM.

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George always envisioned handing it off to Disney and having JJ Abrams hired.



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George always envisioned retiring with Eleventy billion dollars.



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This is the best Star Wars news I've heard since seeing ROTJ in theaters as a little kid!  Now I can use all of those apocryphal EU paperbacks as firebricks next winter.



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Here's the thing I don't get--

 

This notion that something fictional can be made to not count. Why is continuity/canon even a thing? They are ALL works of fiction. Just because a particular book may not be in line with a movie it' not like the book will vanish from your bookshelf. You can still read it an enjoy it. Why does fandom get all worked up if their favorite story is un-canonized and say that now it "doesn't count?"



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Because obsession.


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I never got that either. Its not a problem in comics with their many timelines.

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You sure? Ask Number Six about all his Silver Age DC comics...



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Here's the thing I don't get--

 

This notion that something fictional can be made to not count. Why is continuity/canon even a thing? They are ALL works of fiction. Just because a particular book may not be in line with a movie it' not like the book will vanish from your bookshelf. You can still read it an enjoy it. Why does fandom get all worked up if their favorite story is un-canonized and say that now it "doesn't count?"

I'm fairly certain I've been saying this for years. Not that Im the first person to think it or say it, it's fairly obvious.



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What will be interesting to see is if material from the old EU is snagged, and rebooted for the new EU.

 

Mara Jade may not be in the new movies-- but what if one of these new school novels decides to use her-- they could effectively reboot her origin.



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I agree with you Tank and was only being facetious.  I have a bookshelf full of some of the older EU stuff-- a good bit of it I actually read.  But my days of Star Wars obsession are over, so I really don't care one way or the other.  But it's like some of the old school stuff like "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" and the old pre-ESB comics.  They clearly don't match the movies, but they can still be read and enjoyed.

 

The whole premise of "canon" is pretty silly.  We're not talking about the Niccean Council deciding what books make up the Bible-- a book that will be used to persecute and inspire millions of people over hundreds of years.  If ANYBODY has a right to declare canon, it's George Lucas, as this was his baby.  When he sold LucasFilms, as far as I'm concerned, ANYTHING that comes out is not canonical.  They might be great stories.  But then, so were the Zahn novels, etc.



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I don't think we're getting George's vision, we'll be seeing what people raised on Star Wars envision... Which is why I'm excited.

But didn't "people raised on Star Wars" give us the EU in the first place? 



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Yes, but I personally don't think Star Wars works as a written medium. To me it is popcorn visuals,, so I'm referring to people like Dave Feloni and JJ Abrams.



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But what about the Ewok movies and the Holiday Special?  These are the most important questions right now.


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Star Wars: Episode VI: Life Day! Canonize the Holiday Special. Film it exactly as it was in all its glory back in 1978!


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Movies are canon. That's what I got. So Ewok movies are in and The Holiday Special is double in.

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Yeah-- they seem to say on-screen is canon. If TCW and Rebels counts, why not Droids, Ewoks, Ewok movies and Holiday special count too?



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Great New!!! The cartoons are now canon. I can live with this!





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