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Fantastic Four reboot
Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:15 PM
Closer to the Ultimate FF origin as opposed to the 616. Hey, If the X-Men movies can pick and choose who was a member of which cast, I'm fine with this.
My only reservation is that what was great about the FF originally, was they were a total nuclear 50s/60s family that had superpowers. The Ultimate version, and the movie, skewed younger, which I get, but I think loses a bit of the originality.
That said, if they make a good movie, I won't care.
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 07:22 PM
Posted 24 January 2014 - 07:50 PM
The casting of Michael B. Jordan as Johnny just comes off as all wrong to me. Like they're forcing it, just to have some diversity. Why not bring in more characters who are actually black? For instance, The Black Panther ties in pretty heavily to the FF comics. Why not use him in the movie and keep Johnny the correct race? It'd be the perfect springboard for the long-overdue Black Panther movie! I mean, I don't want to come off as racist, but it's going to bother me when I watch the movie, seeing a black guy playing a character I've known as white my whole life. It isn't going to seem authentic to me. It's actually going to ruin the whole experience before I even view it.
Sorry to offend anyone. I'm just being honest.
Edited by Mercury, 24 January 2014 - 08:35 PM.
Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:01 PM
I get it. If you oppose it, people scream racist. If you're for it, you're a PC apologist.
For me, on an even playing field, if an actor is good, and race isn't inherent to the role (like BLACK Panther HAS to be Black and Captain American pretty much has to be white I don't mind race swapping too much. Jessica Alba isn't white and she played Sue. I get what you say about Johnny-- like I said T'Challa has to be black, Steve white. The Storm family doesn't scream out o me that they have to be any particular race if this takes place in a modern era.
What I DON'T want though is a black Johnny Storm to be there for token reasons for the white director to have as a conversation piece about race. That would get in the way of the movie.
That said, if it was part of the story, I could accept it. Like I said, to me the FF is about family. If Sue was also black, I'd be okay with it. If Sue is white, and Johnny is adopted or they are a multi-racial family, I don't mind that as it's presenting the "modern American family" which is what the original FF were in the 60s....
You know, again, if the actors are good. It's going to be a house of cards situation for me. If it is good, and they sell it, I won't care. If the movie blows, it will be one more thing that causes friction for me.
Posted 20 February 2014 - 10:20 AM
I was hoping for:
Jon Hamm as Reed.
Edward Burns as Ben.
The Rock as Namor.
I didn't have favorites for Johnny and Sue, but I liked the rumor of Michael B Jordan, so I thought for a bit about who'd be the right age and match up to Hamm and Jordan... I landed on a little known actress named Rose Rollins. I'd seen her in a couple shows here and there and dug her look/skillz.
Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:14 AM
*My ideal F4 is older because of the rich archetypes presented in the characters at that age.
Ages ago we had a discussion about The Last Airbender, the points are still valid even though the film was horrid, maybe in hindsight more valid as it can really be argued now that the production was not focused correctly from the start. I understood people being annoyed with the casting of the film not being straight inspired by the cartoon, it annoyed me too, some called it white-washing, I dunno if that was totally fair, but I could see the point. I was able to stomach the changes because it didn't necessarily have to be changes that were making statements or continuing a "Hollywood tradition of white-washing". We could argue it was, we could make it an issue, and that could be valid. But the casting was consistent across families and had the film not been total ****, perhaps the castings would be seen differently after the fact.
Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:31 AM
Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:38 AM
Day Dreaming Post:
I think Jon Hamm and Edward Burns as Reed and Ben is genius.
Hamm is seen as this macho guy and he does it well, but he does aloof awesomely too. Stick a pipe in his mouth and put on smart specs it's flawless. Burns is as New York as you can get without reaching into the Godfather cast. Casting him as the seasoned astronaut turned monstrous blue-eyed Thing is so on the nose it makes me giddy.