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No. No. That's not true. That's impossible.

We all have limits to our suspension of disbelief. Even you, Justus, would balk eventually at something. Don't get haughty and brag how you'll just "let SW7 unfold as whatever it has to be." Storytell

What about Tank's notes? That is the most important question here.

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No, because on January 17th 2000, George Lucas stopped eating a cheeseburger and said "There were only two Sith. That's the ticket. Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket. That's what I meant all along."

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Not being flip, I agree. And I don't pay any attention to anything Lucas says outside of the movies. I haven't seen much of TCW, but I wasn't impressed and don't really care about any additional explanation. As such, the line really only explained that there has to be another Sith.

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MEH is right. If I am right about Abrams-- in that he is going to put in a lot of things older fans wanted from the PT and didn't get-- I'm hoping he's laying seed for that grand scale lightsaber battle we've never had.

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Stop. You stop it right now. I won't do this again!

Not being flip, I agree. And I don't pay any attention to anything Lucas says outside of the movies. I haven't seen much of TCW, but I wasn't impressed and don't really care about any additional explanation. As such, the line really only explained that there has to be another Sith.

Much like Driver was talking about, that seemed like it got classic "over-explanation" treatment. Then going into the EU there was whole book called Rule of Two I think.

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MEH is right. If I am right about Abrams-- in that he is going to put in a lot of things older fans wanted from the PT and didn't get-- I'm hoping he's laying seed for that grand scale lightsaber battle we've never had.

Like Braveheart style, with two opposing armies with lightsabers? I would be down for that.

 

I don't know if we will get that, but it would be cool to see.

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On the 2 Sith rule, stories change as they are being written. Especially ones that are written sporadically over the course of 40 years. It's probable Lucas meant that there are only 2 total Sith at a time. But that's irrelevant. There is nothing wrong with changing that meaning as long as you don't have to jump through too many hoops to do it. In this case there aren't any hoops to jump through. As has been pointed out it could easily mean that Sith come in pairs. Also it could simply be that Yoda was wrong. Either way it's a pretty easy fix, that I would think barely counts as a ret con.

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I think the two sith rule is best intrepreted as a trick the sith played on the jedi... they bought it hook line and sinker. Much easier to go about your business when the jedi are patting themselves on the back for wiping out the threat of the dark side after only killing those two who were dumb enough to get caught.

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Ah, the prequels...over-explaining stupid crap but not telling us basic information like WHAT IS A SITH!?

That depends. If you're George Lucas they're the bad guys who can use the dark side of the force and have red lightsabers. The End.

 

If you like the EU, the Sith were an ancient race of aliens whose doctrines and religion became the basis of philosophy for a group of Dark Jedi who then crafted it into a movement. There are Dark Jedi, and there are Sith... and the Nightsisters and a few other groups known to use the dark side.

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I mean I think it's the same, the EU just provided the back story for the term, which was kind of the point of the EU.

 

Watching the movies (pre-reading any EU) I never really needed anything more than sith = bad guy force user = red lightsaber.

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Maybe Yoda meant there's minimum 2 sith but could be more? No, he said specifically 'no more, no less'

 

Could the Sequel Trilogy continue to update the Jedi/Sith rules and have Luke talking to Yoda and it being revealed Yoda made a mistake, etc..? Of course. They own it, they can write what the want. But that won't make the movie GOOD. As you guys said, the PT pushed it too far with over-explaining things and if that keeps going on then Star Wars is truly in big trouble. These new movies are supposed to be the redemption, and I really hope they are.

 

Also, for people who think the 4chain synopsis was farfetched and fan-fictiony? The PT gave us:

 

-"Someone to see ya, honey! Jedi by the looks of him."

-"What are midichlorians?"

-"Execute Order 66"

 

Etcetera, etcetera....so in a way the 4chan rumors sound more OT and canon-y than not.

 

And lastly....

 

If you like the EU, the Sith were an ancient race of aliens whose doctrines and religion became the basis of philosophy for a group of Dark Jedi who then crafted it into a movement. There are Dark Jedi, and there are Sith... and the Nightsisters and a few other groups known to use the dark side.

Just a term like 'Nightsisters' completely embodies why I stay away from that EU CRAP and feel that everyone should.

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If you like the EU, the Sith were an ancient race of aliens whose doctrines and religion became the basis of philosophy for a group of Dark Jedi who then crafted it into a movement. There are Dark Jedi, and there are Sith... and the Nightsisters and a few other groups known to use the dark side.

They likely didn't get Bothans right either.
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Benedict Cumberbatch has been seen on the set. He's not credited to be in the movie, and he denied being cast a long time ago. However, when confronted about his appearance on the set, he was asked again if he was to be in the film, he didn't deny it, and said no comment repeatedly.

Add all that up, I don't know what the heck it means, but I would LOVE Benedict Cumberbatch to be in the film, or even a voice over for whatever Andy Serkis is playing.

The voice in the trailer sounds an awful lot like my boy, the big batch of cumber himself, Benedict Cumberbatch. I called it therefore I am awesome. :thumbsup:

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I read that Serkis has confirmed it is his voice on the teaser trailer, not Cumberbatch's. And being seen on set does not prove that an actor is in the movie. Daniel Radcliffe has claimed to have been on set, but no one expects to see him in the film.

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Serkis confirmed it was him. Cumberbatch confirmed it wasn't him.

 

I think it's safe to say that Cumberbatch is in the movie somewhere though. Not in any meaningful way, but I bet he's in there. Just based on how he always answers questions about whether or not he has a part in Star Wars.

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