Driver Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Shooting somehow will start in 3 months. Rumor mill is prob about to explode, soya as we'll start talking about it! This weekend there was a big supposed insider scoop saying: 1. Jesse Plemons (bastard Todd from Breaking Bad) is being considered for a lead part. 2. Another lead is a multiracial female that happens to be Ovi-Wan's granddaughter 3. Ardnt's draft supposedly focused on the Skywalker/Solo kids and JJ passed it up because he wanted a bigger role for Han, Luke and Leia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 My feelings...1. Eh. Everyone under the sun has auditioned, and since the script has changed we don't even have an idea of the characters-- yet people are assuming he's Luke's son cause he "resembles" Mark Hamil... Cause apparently, if you're blonde you have to be Luke's kid.2. I actually love the idea of Obi-WANs granddaughter. One, no one has thought of that before. Two, that may actually skirt interfering with the EU to focus on her instead of the solo twins. There's a twenty year gap in Obi-wan's story, safe to say he didn't spend all of it alone in the desert and messing with Tuskens.3. I feel like this is total supposition. This thing is so tightly guarded I find it hard to believe anyone outside of the inner circle has seen the script. I'd expect more leaks of the script to actually happen once preproduction starts.. Which really, if shooting starts in April had better be ASAP if they plan to do things like build sets and fabricate props and costumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I hear what you're saying but Kahn being in ST2 leaked fairly early and turned out to be correct. I love the idea of OB1 having a granddaughter because it completely blows up the EU. LOL The actor who played Todd is incredible. Hope he gets a role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I love the idea of OB1 having a granddaughter because it completely blows up the EU. LOL . How's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I've read that Abrams has said that he regretted the secrecy around Reboot of Khan, so maybe we will see more leaks, and they could be legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I love the idea of OB1 having a granddaughter because it completely blows up the EU. LOL . How's that? It doesn't. His granddaughter can be easily written into it. I don't know why he delights in the idea of the EU being destroyed anyway. So he doesn't like it. Fair enough, but I guess just because he doesn't like it means it has to be ruined for everyone. That's kind of a jackass thing to hope for. Also, I hate when people say "OB1". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 That's why I think the character idea is good-- it doesn't make the solo twins not exist and invalidate the EU by making them apocryphal. At the same time it makes a character that can be retconned into the EU if need be without too much hassle. I don't love the EU, and I'd prefer characters from it NOT be in the movie, but I don't need to take it away from the people who do love it. This approach could keep all fans happy. Question is, does Lucasfilm see the money made by the EU and think they can't alienate those fans by undoing it all? Or do they just assume that anyone who'd buy a Star Wars book is automatically going to buy a movie ticket regardless? Zerimar-- would you? As somebody who likes the EU more than the movies would you not to see Episode 7 if you knew it was breaking EU continuity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I think most EU lovers would roll with it. They put up with The Crystal Star ... they can put up with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Zerimar-- would you? As somebody who likes the EU more than the movies would you not to see Episode 7 if you knew it was breaking EU continuity? Oh, I plan on seeing it. Whether it wrecks continuity or not, I'll still watch it, and maybe even enjoy it. Whether I enjoy it as an alternate universe or not is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 2. I actually love the idea of Obi-WANs granddaughter. One, no one has thought of that before. Of course you think this. You've never read fanfic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I think most EU lovers would roll with it. They put up with The Crystal Star ... they can put up with this.I actually would kind of hate the idea of Obi-Wan having a daughter. Obi-Wan's had relationships in the EU (Satine in The Clone Wars, Siri in the books), and he's always been considered a "player" in fanfic circles because Ewan McGregor is hot. But Obi-Wan is the quintessential Jedi. He might have been in love with women before, but he didn't let it get in the way of his being a Jedi. He would never have left the Order, and he certainly wouldn't have actually consummated a relationship or any romantic feelings he might have had. That's why he was different from Anakin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Maybe the better choice would be a decedent of Qui-Gon. It would certainly fit with his radical and rebellious nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Meh, I can see it. The Order didn't exist, he abandoned the name Obi-Wan (but not Kenobi). Accepting that I don't know anything about anything set between the trilogies, it seems like he pretty much gave up being a Jedi until R2 brought him out of retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 They're saying GRAND daughter, not daughter. Meaning he likely hooked it up between trilogies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Yeah...I still don't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doze Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryn Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "OB1" only had value from clone speculation in the early days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I don't know why he delights in the idea of the EU being destroyed anyway. So he doesn't like it. Fair enough, but I guess just because he doesn't like it means it has to be ruined for everyone. That's kind of a jackass thing to hope for. Sports fans root for another team to lose just out of spite and despite that team's fans being diehard and the fact those fans will be miserable if their team loses. And sports fans are just as fanatical about their teams are EU fans are about their EU, if not more. So it's no more or no less jackassery than that scenario and that happens all the time. All the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 But Obi-Wan is the quintessential Jedi...He would never have left the Order... He didn't have to leave the Order. It left him! (OK, it was destroyed around him, but same difference.) Is a priest still a priest if the religion he was a part of no longer exists? Besides, from a purely practical standpoint, Kenobi would be irresponsible to keep his Force-sensitive genes to himself. If the Jedi Order was ever to be re-established, he'd be smart to start sowing some of those oats of his. Did he really have anything better to do while on Tatooine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yes. Watch Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Didn't Ki Adi Mundi have a family? And wasn't that established during the TPM follow up, then have to be retconned after the "no attachment" rule was established? Honestly, I'm fuzzy on the love is good, attachment is bad concept. Also, obviously the Jedi know that Force sensitivity can be passed on through family lines-- why wouldn't they take advantage of that? Personally, I always thought being a Jedi would be the perfect set up for one night stands. her: Are you staying for breakfast?him: Oh-- no, sorry I thought you knew. I'm a Jedi. Not allowed, baby.her: But you said you loved me!him: last night is very hazy, you barely remember ither: lastnightishazyIbarelyrmemberit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ender Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 You are assuming that this would be a biological granddaughter. What if he adopted a child that had a daughter? Even still, I find it hard that he would not mention having a child, whether biological or not, in the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 To be fair we only saw OB1 for a couple days movie time and then he was dead. I don't know about you guys but I don't break out the "Btw I have a daughter and granddaughter I never see" stories until I've at least been with somebody for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I just still don't see it. And story-wise, it doesn't work. Obi-Wan and Anakin are polar opposites for reasons. Obi-Wan is extremely by-the-book. And yes, I think he'd be that way even after the Order was destroyed. That's just the way he is. And I can't see him forming a romantic attachment with someone even after coming to the conclusion that attachments are okay. Of course, my viewpoint has been tainted by the EU on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Especially since he was a lying liar from Liartown for the entire OT. "I only have kids from a certain point of view, the view that avoids paying child support." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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