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-they fact that all three of them were "lower decks." That's a reference to one of my favorite TNG episodes, it followed junior officers who had no idea what the classified mission they were working on was, they jut had to take orders. In just a teaser I got Boyega was a stormtrooper that didn't know what was going on-- his first shot of being panicked, the troopers lined up in the carrier, the door opening into the unknown

Ouch. That hurt. My mind went a completely different way with that. I figured he was a wannabe hero who infiltrated the stormtoopers and wore their suit the way Luke and Han did. Do you know Boyega's a ST as a fact?

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Grunt changes sides, becomes big hero. It's a reversal for Star Wars, but I'd be fine with it either way.

Except it's a concept that has been done to death in almost every other star wars video game since Dark Forces.

 

Sounds more like a JJ Abrams plagiarism homage, that has become his signature. If you can't think of something yourself, steal it, and do it so blatantly that people just assume you are paying "tribute" to the one you just ripped off.

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There's only a handful of plots in all narrative and Star Wars is pretty simplistic and sticks to the heroes journey. I'm no Abrams uber fan but that is awfully angry sounding

Well, maybe it is angry sounding and yes Star Wars is simplistic but consider this:

 

Can you name one ORIGINAL idea Abrams has had?

 

Alias was a direct rip off, some episodes virtually a carbon copy of the La Femme Nikita series.

 

Lost was more or less a variation on The Prisoner and The New People

 

Cloverfield was just his take on Kaiju.

 

Fringe season 1 was a blatant rip off of Xfiles, going as far as to reference an "x division." The rest of the seasons relied heavily on a parallel universe every sci fi TV show has depicted since at least Twilight Zone. Hell, he got Nimoy to play Bell who figured heavily in Fringe's alternate reality (in the beginning, at least), who was in one of the most famous Sci fi alternate reality episodes, Mirror, Mirror (evil bearded Spock), AND happened to appear as Spock Prime in his Star Trek movies.

 

Then there's Star Trek 2009\STID . 2009 essentially recycled basic tropes of previous Star Trek movies and packaged it in a shiny new wrapper so people thought it was "fresh," while STID directly ripped off TWOK. I could go on, but you know where i am going, there.

 

I'm not saying Abrams is the devil, but he definitely is unoriginal, and not the second coming of film making everyone seems to make him out to be. At best, he is a step above Michael Bey, and Abrams just happens to be a little smarter in being able to target his audience, and ape the masters enough to grab that target audience. I suppose that in of itself is a form of genius, but it is not genuine, and sometimes his work is a tad too incestuous & derivative to enjoy, at least to me.

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Every time I make a poignant observation on this thread it's like the stupidest thing everyone's ever heard. Listen, every Star Wars movie the planets are only one environment. All snow, all forest, etc. Look at this trailer. The movie shot on location. You got a forest where the villain shows up. Obviously it looks like it just started snowing there. A Star Wars environment's never been so dynamic. It's really matured.

 

 

Naboo would like to have a word with you.

 

 

Also, Lucas isn't original at all either (hello Joseph Campbell), so I don't mind if the story is a "rip-off" or simplistic. That's when Star Wars is the best, IMO. Simplistic outer shell, but you peel it away and find all this nuance.

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Don't forget Regarding Henry. Although technically a spin on Dickens. It felt fresh. Plus the film gets bonus points for getting me all verklempt each time I see it; he doesn't like dogs, THEN HE DOES! Kids annoy him, THEN THEY DON'T. And he can't do it like in the porn. Waterfalls. Blubbering. Sighs. Tragic and yet uplifting.

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Guest El Chalupacabra

Yikes.

I know how that sounds. And Abrams will likely be a billionaire after Episode 7, if he isn't already, so, seriously, what does my dumb ass know, right. I know I am probably the only one here that feels that way.

 

I'm just irritated because if that preview is the best of the movie, it's got me real nervous. It did have a couple cool scenes with the xwings and Falcon, but I had very little excitement over it. Even the PT previews at least excited me, more.

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Is Abrams original? No-- I agree with that. He makes movies that are an homage to the things he grew up on. Everything is a remake (overt or secretly). Star Wars is one of those things, and I'd agree with the EU there's not much untread territory left for the SW universe. So in my head, he's the right guy for the job-- he'll make a Star Wars movie that feels like a Star Wars movie. He's not the guy to make a new shiny 100% original feature-- but I don't know that is possible with Star Wars-- and even if it was, I don't think people would like it.

 

Would I consider him my favorite director? Not by a long shot-- especially given the writers he often chooses to work with. But is he the right guy for this job? I think so exactly for the reasons Chalup says.

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Both of you present fair arguments. And I by no means say I am right, just saying that those are my issues with Abrams.

 

I mean I am not a total hater, even if it sounds like I am. I did actually enjoy most of Fringe, Star Trek 2009, and initially, I liked Cloverfield.

 

But I perceive (I could be wrong) that it seems like the industry and a lot of people think Abrams can do no wrong, and I don't see anything that special about what he's done, and I don't see anything that makes me go "WOW" about the trailer, either. I guess maybe that is what I am ranting about.

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I don't like JJ Abrams either but on this trailer at least he did NO wrong. The simplerer the better for me too.

 

Just remember how intricate the TPM trailer was. Remember the goosebumps from 'The boy is dangerous'? Did it backfire? Yes!

 

I can't wrap my head around it. From start to finish it's an amazing teaser trailer! I referenced to how the Boyega shot looked like Lost. I HATE Lost. Can't STAND IT. But this trailer looked goooood.

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A 2 second shot that tells us nothing more than he likes to wear black rags and carries a weird lightsaber. Tells me nothing.

 

And don't get me started on Maul. Worst character in the movies, in my opinion.

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I think you're reading way too much into a trailer that shows Nothing! I'll give them credit for doing so, but they wrapped principal photography a couple of weeks ago. That they released a "teaser" is admirable though seeing as the movie is over a year away it does nothing but get Star Wars fans in overreact mode.

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