Driver Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 Lazer nunchaku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I wish I could stand more than a second of Colbert so I could know what his wonderful ****ing explanation was. But ... I can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 He suggests it's not three emitters and three beams, it's one beam that splits/vents out at the t-junction. The hiltcasings exist purely to protect the users hands from the venting. This would solve the problem of just slicing down thru the hilt, because the attacking blade would lock with the venting even when it sliced thru the casing. Of course doing so immediately exposes the user to the heat/energy of the t-junction venting, so I guess really it's still dumb. Probably better to just say they made it to sell toys and then just stomach it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Ray Kenobi Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Obviously a bit late to the party here, but I loved pretty much everything about the teaser.John Boyega popping up in the desert is as clear an indication as any that this is a "new" kind of Star Wars. Not only in having a minority be the one of the new faces of the franchise, but by employing some new kinds of cinematography to introduce him.I could give or take the ball droid. It's a little on the silly side, but it's not like you're going to get Jar Jar levels of ridiculousness from a non-verbal droid.The stormtrooper shot is probably the most dynamic and promising of the whole trailer, that just looks fantastically real and gritty, and not in an over the top Nolanesque way either. Love the new design too, it looks like the Empire hired Jony Ive.Not a lot to see or take away from the shot of Daisy Ridley, but I do love how her outfit is really reminiscent of the early McQuarrie concepts of Luke. Her speeder also looks fine, I don't see anything at all wrong with it, especially given that her character is pretty obviously a kind of loner and scavenger.The X-Wing shot also is just jaw-dropping. It's the first time in decades that Star Wars looks "real," even though it's a CG effect. The water coming off of the lake and the clouds floating behind them just make that shot. The camera is also a little shaky, giving it far less of that "too clean" look of the prequels.The Sith wannabe looks great, I also love how the camera kind of pans downward as he walks into the forest. His lightsaber also looks cool, and I take Colbert's stance on how it works. Also, if the rumors are true about that hooded figure, I don't think those with their panties wadded should worry too much about that particular saber.The Falcon shot wowed me the first few times, but after seeing it a bit more I'm a little more toned down on it. It doesn't really have the same gritty and real feel of the X-Wing shot, and feels a little too CG. I'm hoping that's because it's early and not entirely finished, but it feels a little too clean and reminiscent of the Prequels to me. Also, my guess is that John Boyega is piloting one of those TIE fighters right before he gets shot down. Also, if you look at the last few frames before it cuts to black, I'm pretty sure you can see the little shantyville that Daisy Ridley is speeding to in her shot.Also, I think the content of this trailer is a big middle finger from Abrams to those leaking information and those of us consuming it. I feel like he's basically saying "fine, you can have it, but you aren't getting anything new out of me." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I enjoyed the trailer. I hear noob casuals are perplexed at there being a black stormtrooper, not for any racially-motivated reasons, but because they are unaware that the stormtroopers of the original Trilogy are mostly drafted Imperial citizens and are no longer clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryn Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 There's behind-the-scenes shots of the ANH sandtroopers with their helmets off. Some of them are black. Granted, that isn't in-story, but troopers being only white folks ain't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I think it's probably more because of the clone troopers and no explanation of when they stopped. At least not as far as the big screen is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lace Mindu Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 What are these rumors about the hooded figure? Details pls. Kthx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Speculation and rumor thread: http://nightly.net/topic/77194-unconfirmed-star-wars-news/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I think it's probably more because of the clone troopers and no explanation of when they stopped. At least not as far as the big screen is concerned.Well, EU fans were on the ball as far as that's concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denman Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I like the new lightsaber, just hope that Sith marching through the snowy woods is not off to fight the white walkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Do we know if he even is a Sith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Red lightsaber, black clothes. What are the chances that iconography is flipped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The reason Boyega being in a storm trooper costume was a story had nothing to do with any 'in story' Star Wars stuff. It was because people thought "wow, there is a black guy featured prominently here but Ofcourse he is an evil storm trooper' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The reason was that people are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I like the new lightsaber, just hope that Sith marching through the snowy woods is not off to fight the white walkers.At least something would be happening on that front, finally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Red lightsaber, black clothes. What are the chances that iconography is flipped?That doesn't mean anything. It just indicates that this character follows the dark side of the Force. That does not automatically equal Sith. The Sith are an order, which ended with Sidious and Vader. Granted, this new dark sider may be someone who calls himself a Sith, like he's building a new Sith order or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 We've yet to see any "evil" Jedi-esque characters who aren't Sith, so it's hard to believe there will be one. Not impossible, but difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Yes, we have. Ignoring the EU, if you want to look at the new canon bull****, you need look to further than The Clone Wars, where there are lots of non-Sith dark siders (Ventress, the Witches of Dathomir, etc). Plus, there's the Inquisitor in Rebels. None of these are Sith, yet they follow the dark side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I am certain JJ is paying close attention to all that. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 JJ might not be, but someone is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 I bet it's never even an issue one way or another. Red saber, black clothes, dark side of the force = bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Torch Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 JJ is in control right now, if Disney trusts him like Paramount did with Star Trek then you can be certain the plot focus is tight and easy for the broadest audience to get. No one should expect ties to anything but the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If one more person points out that "they aren't going to expect the audience to be paying attention to anything other than the films," I'm going to go crazy. No **** they aren't. But the reality is they have gone out of their way to set up what is "canon" and what isn't as far as material outside of the movies go, and there are still things that exist as canon (The Clone Wars, Rebels). I doubt there are going to be glaring inconsistencies. This is not the same thing as the witches of Dantooine or whatever-the-hell being mentioned and expecting everyone to have seen that particular arc from whatever it's from. None of these are Sith, yet they follow the dark side.Who says? What's the difference between following the dark side and being a sith in the current SW universe? What even is a Sith? Is that ever even expounded upon in the PT (I am yet to start my rewatch of that mess). Driver summed it up aptly. red/black = bad. Anything more than that is extraneous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 As I said before, the Sith are an actual order, like the Jedi. This much can be deduced from the films themselves: the Rule of Two, the adoption of a Darth title. All of these things indicate some sort of ritualistic tradition, or tenets of faith.Also, I am an Old Canonist, but for the sake of this conversation, I am only using examples from the Diseny canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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