Metropolis Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Man they are stuck with Amare. And you have JR Smith acting like he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I'm fine with JR leaving, I'm a firm believer that Shumpert is going to step it up a couple nothces this year. Plus with Bargnani and Amare our bench scoring should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Andy Glockner on Twitter just pointed out that before paying a single guard this coming season the Knicks are committed to a 4-man frontcourt for 68 million bucks, which is 10 mil over next year's cap number. Yikes. With the future in flux, you might as well try to do something for this season and next- even if it means overpaying to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 The Knicks have more money than God, the money don't matter. They are already over the lux tax, so whats the difference? The key is to not add salary far into the future after Amare and Chandlers contracts expire. Amare, Melo and Chandlers deals are all up at the end of the 2014-15 season. In fact right now the only 2 players the Knicks are committed to for the 2015-16 season are felton and Novak and this deal gets rid of Novak. Bargnani's contract ends at the end of 2014-15 too. So basically you try to make the most out of these next 2 years and then when those guys deals are all up, you start over. In fact considering we are giving up Novak in this deal, the long term cap implications for the Knicks are actually positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I've seen the Pacers linked to both Tony Allen and OJ Mayo (who Bird has been pursuing for like 3 years at this point) today. Re-signing David West will put the team over the cap, but I guess they could still use the MLE on either guy (both of whom made less than the MLE last year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamevet Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I would think that Dirk would be for a trade chip. Though it does make them competitive while still going young. Cuban would give up a kidney, before trading Dirk. He's the face of the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 He'd trade Dirk for a Mountain Dew. Seriously though he said Dirk has two "elite" years left in him. So he either has to go all in or start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lohr Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 The Knicks have more money than God, the money don't matter. They are already over the lux tax, so whats the difference? Well, the difference is that the system changed for this season. It's no longer just dollar-for-dollar and the higher you go over the threshold, the tougher the penalty. If they stay in the $10-15M over range, they'll be paying (up to) $2.50/per dollar. If they go higher than $15M over, some of that shoots up to $3.25/dollar. Sure, if a team is able & willing to live with that, it's no sweat to us. I'm just saying there is, in fact, a difference. As for Dirk, not only is he the heart of that team and a huge fan favorite, he's the one being used to sell Howard on Dallas. I can't see him going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 It's pretty sad that the Lakers had been reduced to outright begging for Howard to stay in LA. Eesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 The Knicks have more money than God, the money don't matter. They are already over the lux tax, so whats the difference? Well, the difference is that the system changed for this season. It's no longer just dollar-for-dollar and the higher you go over the threshold, the tougher the penalty. If they stay in the $10-15M over range, they'll be paying (up to) $2.50/per dollar. If they go higher than $15M over, some of that shoots up to $3.25/dollar. Sure, if a team is able & willing to live with that, it's no sweat to us. I'm just saying there is, in fact, a difference. As for Dirk, not only is he the heart of that team and a huge fan favorite, he's the one being used to sell Howard on Dallas. I can't see him going anywhere. I don't care how much money little Jimmy Dolan has to shell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lohr Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 It's pretty sad that the Lakers had been reduced to outright begging for Howard to stay in LA. Eesh. Why would they? Because it's been working out so well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Howard has supposedly told Houston he wants them to get a third super star. I mean you can't expect him to work hard and play well on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lohr Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 True. Teams shouldn't have such unrealistic expectations. I mean $22.5M/year only gets you so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Plus super stars are real easy to acquire. My actual question is who would be the 2nd super star, let alone the third. Harden is one, Dwight sure as hell ain't right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Well, the Knicks-Raptors deal is basically done. The Knicks gave Richardson a three year extension so he could be included in the deal to balance out the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metropolis Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 He wants Hedo! As far as the luxury tax it will be interesting to see what teams will do. Micky Arison said he has no problem paying the luxury tax as long as the Heat are title contenders. I see the Heat doing their best to keep Lebron and Bosh. After 2014 a lot of "bad" contracts come off the books anyways. Will the Nets keep shelling out cash to be a 4th seed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 He wants Hedo! As far as the luxury tax it will be interesting to see what teams will do. Micky Arison said he has no problem paying the luxury tax as long as the Heat are title contenders. I see the Heat doing their best to keep Lebron and Bosh. After 2014 a lot of "bad" contracts come off the books anyways. Will the Nets keep shelling out cash to be a 4th seed? It's worth it to the Nets to be at least pretty good in Broolyn for the first few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I agree. But you can't make a habit of it (unless you're the Lakers or Knicks). Chris Paul has verbally agreed to a 5-year, $107M contract with the Clips, per just about everyone at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 The Knicks are so big in NY and were unchallenged until the Nets moved. If the Nets went to Brooklyn and stunk, they'd never dig their way out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Bargnani could be a very interesting fit for the Knicks in that he's a big who can shoot and help spread the floor. Earlier in his career he shot over 37% from downtown on 3 occassions and once over 40%. He's gotten worse the last few years from long range but thats not normal. I doubt he's lost his stroke. My guess is that the Raptors were asking him to do too much. The Knicks likely won't. He obviously isn't the #1 scoring option. If he can get his 3F% back to that 37% range, he could be a huge add for the Knicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 For those interested: Woj from Yahoo! is the best follow on twitter for FA (and the NBA in general, imo) Hoops World's Free Agency Diary: Hoops World's Free Agency Primer: All are really good resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lohr Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Anything in any of those on how the Suns could not suck the next few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 They really aren't in bad shape for the future. They should deal Gortat (expiring contract) for assets, preferably a future 1st rounder. Continue to suck this coming year and land a top 5 pick in a positively loaded draft. They've only got $19M on the books for 2015. It ain't so bad. Pacers rumored to be interested in Chris Copeland from the Knicks, and there's apparently mutual interest. He would go a long way to helping the bench scoring. How was his D, Choc? Pacers have also apparently agreed to terms (or have come close to agreeing) with CJ Watson for the backup PG spot. That move is reasonable. There's no way he'll be as bad as Augustin was this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Pacers rumored to be interested in Chris Copeland from the Knicks, and there's apparently mutual interest. He would go a long way to helping the bench scoring. How was his D, Choc? I don't think he knows what D stands for. But he can definitely score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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