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Posted 11 July 2013 - 10:47 AM
The point of the Vision has always been that he's a robot who is human in every way but for the fact of him being a robot. He feels human feelings and does human things. HE EVEN MAKES BABIES. It's what makes the character a fairly decent supporting cast member of the Avengers and not a blank slate of nothingness like the Machine Man (who only really got a personality once Ellis reinvented him as a snooty bon vivant in Nextwave) or the boring Jocasta (who is really no more than a Bride of Frankenstein rip-off). It's not the average Pinocchio or Scarecrow/Tin-Man dynamic where he wants to be human; he just is a human who happens to be made out of crazy aethereal metal.
But you are right if they are casting Vin Diesel they'll probably go all NO UNDERSTAND HEW-MAN EMO-TIONS and who knows if they'll even keep the awesome Vision/Wanda/Pietro dynamic where he and Wanda love each other (I could go on about how they understand each other as mutual outcasts from bigoted society who are living contradictions as she is a witch [magic] who is also a mutant [science] and he is a man [nature] who is also a robot [artificial] but their relationship is probably more like whoever it was who came up with it Roy Thomas maybe or Shooter being like LOL THEY ARE BOTH RED) and Pietro is torn between his desire to protect Wanda (which is the raison detre of Quicksilver) from what he perceives as a threat and his need to make her happy by letting her have the romantic partner she desires.
My point is : ONLY I UNDERSTAND THE MARVEL UNIVERSE ALL OTHER UNDERSTANDINGS OF IT ARE FLAWED EVEN THE ONES THAT ARE HUGE BOX OFFICE SUCCESSES OR ARE PERPETUATED FOR A DECADE AND A HALF BY THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WRITE THE COMICS
Also : they should have Henry Peter Geyrich in the movie and he should be played by James Remar or, in one of those the-Human-Torch-is-Captain-America twists, JK SImmons.
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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:55 AM
If Vision is added that's a pretty big cast. I still feel like Carol Danvers would be great onscreen-- but she should get her own movie first.
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Posted 11 July 2013 - 03:41 PM
Maybe have She-Hulk? I kinda think the idea of a girl being a Hulk has legs for a film. Jan Pym née van Dyne was apparently in some drafts of the first movie and Joss said something about really liking her and it being tough to let go of her in the script. I mean, she's pretty boring in the comics (nice hat, though). Tigra would be either expensive if they went CGI or a sort of Kelsey Grammer situation where you couldn't really tell who it was under the make-up plus maybe the whole Catwoman stink hasn't faded yet. Mantis and Moondragon are all crazy weirdo cosmic but since they're doing Guardians of the Galaxy who the hell knows maybe they could show up. Mockingbird could work but they've already established a sort of buddy/semi-romance thing between Hawkeye and Black Widow already. Firebird and Firestar= boring, can not tell apart. Sersi = drags in all this crazy Kirby Eternals stuff. Bendis has been pushing Spider-Woman hard for years and years but who knows how that would work what with the whole different characters with different studios thing. Echo would be a seriously new character to drop into the movies but then again Maria Hill made it into films before two out of five founding Avengers so whatever. The Monica Rambeau Cpt. Marvel instead of the Carol Danvers one? Millie the Model?
Oh, you know who they should definitely add? MISTY KNIGHT! I want to see what is basically Angela-Davis-with-a-bionic-arm on the big screen.
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Posted 11 July 2013 - 04:45 PM
They could introduce Carol via the TV show as some newb with powers and transition her to the film... It's a bummer that so much of her history is interwoven with the X-Men, moreso even than Quicksilver and Scarlet With. Whatever version of her they do will be streamlined for sure.
Rambeua showed up recently with a new name I now forget, sans Jericurl.
Janet seems like the most obvious as she was the first female Avenger. Have they confirmed if the Ant Man movie is about Scott Lang or Pym?
Misty Knight has to be saved for the 70sverse Daughters of the Dragon/Heroes for Hire movie IN MY DREAMS.
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Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:05 AM
Ultron was a robot Pym made that ended up housing the intelligence. There's a been lots of different versions and retcons over the years. Originally he was a giant vacuum cleaner robot of terror-- but in more modern days he's basically become Skynet The Terminator and HAL all rolled into one. Supergenius artificial intelligence in a near-indestructable robot body that wants to kill the Avengers.
I'm personally thrilled we're not getting Thanos. I really feel like the space/cosmic stuff isn't grounded enough for the Avengers. Even the alien attack at the end of the first movie was pushing it for me. I always felt Ultron was a better fit for the cinematic universe. I'm wondering of Thanos was more of a set-up for Guardians than Avengers.
Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:09 AM
I agree about the alien invasion thing. There's just too much of a disparity of power between us folks of Earth and the forces of space evil. It's the same reason I'm hesitant about a Batman/Superman team-up. Next to Superman, what good is Batman going to do but play detective?
Posted 22 July 2013 - 11:56 AM
And evidence it might have something more directly to do with Captain America: the Winter Soldier...
Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:05 AM
The Avengers: Age of Ultron
The recently released animatics for the first Avengers featured an evil version of Tony Stark’s faithful AI butler Jarvis, which led to immediate online speculation that Joss Whedon might turn Jarvis into Ultron for the sequel – something that seemed like a distinct possibility the moment that Joss Whedon revealed he planned to incorporate Ultron without including Hank Pym. Since then, Unleash the Fanboy claims that an inside source at Disney has confirmed this creative decision.
While that definitely shouldn’t be taken as any kind of official confirmation, turning Jarvis into Ultron does seem like the most narratively streamlined way to include the character in the new film. Plus, the fact that Marvel Studios cast the well-established, physically imposing Paul Bettany to voice a computer now seems like a bit of a masterstroke, as it’s possible that Bettany could provide at least motion capture for the part of Ultron, although this would reportedly involve a new contract as he’s previously only been signed on to provide voiceover.
Again, this should really only be seen as rumor, and a fairly unsubstantiated one at that — but this seems like the kind of unreliable rumor that eventually turns about to be more or less correct. [Unleash the Fanboy]
Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:50 AM
In other news, latest I've read is that Elizabeth Olsen is just about signed on to play Scarlet Witch.
Posted 02 September 2013 - 06:49 PM
I like to think that somewhere out there are huge crowds of people asking themselves "Who?" and "Who?" and "What?" in response to the nouns in the sentence above this one.