3 & 6 years to go... Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I just have to say that last night's 20th Anniversary Raw show was very underwhelming. I was expecting more. The beginning, with the theme music over the years, was great to hear. But, where was HBK? Bret Hart? Austin? A lot of people missing. One thing that made me drop my chin was Barrett cleanly pinning Orton. That was a tad surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 & 6 years to go... Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Jeez, now I see that Eve quitting last night is she is really leaving. Great. Can we lose anymore divas that have busted their butt, improved greatly and then left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 I liked Eve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Jeez, now I see that Eve quitting last night is she is really leaving. Great. Can we lose anymore divas that have busted their butt, improved greatly and then left? It would be great if we lost them all, womens wrestling is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashaman Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Not back in the day when they actually got women that could wrestle BEFORE getting in WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 No, it sucked even then. It's always sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashaman Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 No, it was good. Better than some of the stuff men did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 The key to Divas matches is just like most other matches - it takes two characters the crowd cares about. Doesn't have to be a good match if the people really care about what they're seeing, and really want one person to win or want one person to lose really bad. Trish vs Stephanie @ No Way Out '01, any Trish vs Lita or Trish vs Mickie James match, the Lita vs Victoria cage match, Molly Holly vs Ivory, I mean really the maches were good and the talent was good. It was a small niche in wrestling with a small roster of Divas, so most of the good stuff involves the aforementioned Divas (not counting Stephanie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Here is the problem, they are never, ever going to have enough women wrestlers to have a good division. In order to have something that is good you need 20-30 wrestlers with interwoven storylines. You can't have 1 match a week and 1 storyline at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Tag teams and cruiserweights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Tag teams and cruiserweights? Well do they even have cruiserweights now? And tag teams prove my point. The division was a waste for years, they are just now starting to bring it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 The 1987 survivor series match between team Sherrie and Team Mulah was pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Im not saying individual matches can't be good. Im saying that no one cares who the Champion is of a division with 4 people in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 Well you had mentioned it always sucked, I was pointing out that it didn't always suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_Muzza Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 It didn't always suck. The attitude era had a great divas division. Any diva not being used in a feud over the Womens Championship was either a valet or manager and could be interwoven into other feuds and play equally with the boys. The problem is with the talent they have now, they keep letting the best ones go. If they got behind it with good writing they could have had a great division with Beth, Natalya, Eve, Gail Kim and Kelly Kelly. They only have 3 women who are over: one isn't a wrestler (Vickie), one left on Monday (Eve) and the other is involved in a top feud (AJ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 They could start the whole thing from scartch with just two divas if they wanted to, and slowly intertwine new ones in as they are built up. It really wouldn't be that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I've always hated chick wrestling, even if the wrestlers were talented. I think it's because it's harder for me to suspend disbelief. Part of what makes wrestling work for me is when thou have interesting characters, and there have never been enough interesting chick wrestlers at one time to make it appealing. It just looks like a bunch of hot chicks cat fighting. Part of the reason why I hate it is because I'm always thinking of what they could be doing instead, like giving male mid carders more air time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 & 6 years to go... Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Wow, no comments about last night?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Dragon Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 The Arena is dead. I thought that traffic would pick up for Mania, but it didn't happen. The crowd was awesome last night, and I'm interested to see if there is any carry over. I'm thinking if/when Mania comes to Dallas, I may just spend all my money on Raw the next night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 & 6 years to go... Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Since they were in New York/New Jersey, must've had a lot of Bleacher Creatures in the crowd. They were doing a Yankee Roll Call for the announcing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 As bland as WM sounded, last night was pretty cool. Not only did Dolph finally cash in we also got a Ryback heel turn. Good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Last night was once of the best things I've seen in wrestling in years. Hottest crowd I've seen for as long as I can remember. I am so glad I decided to watch last night. Thing is, I'm not sure the WM29 crowd would have been as hot for Ziggler cashing in as NJ was last night. I would guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I really like the Ryback turn. Between the general Cena hate and the Goldberg chants it makes sense to feud these guys to see if anything shakes out. Both have been pushed as faces, but neither have been universally embraced. If neither of them make any progress with the fans how cool would it be if they BOTH became heels? Then guys like Punk, Ziggler, and Bryan would have the perfect foils to to become true superstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 There were Goldberg chants? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 There were Goldberg chants? Why? Because Ryback is a carbon copy of Goldberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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