The Kurgan Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Vanguards, you say? I'm growing increasingly convinced of it. You appropriate the identity of some preferred group or cause, and use it as a shield to deflect criticism from yourself and bolster your own image. The "leftist hangers on" you refer to have a centuries old tradition of this. The right are far from innocent of it themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I'm growing increasingly convinced of it. You appropriate the identity of some preferred group or cause, and use it as a shield to deflect criticism from yourself and bolster your own image. The "leftist hangers on" you refer to have a centuries old tradition of this. The right are far from innocent of it themselves.Absolutely! And not for lack of trying, I just think the right has a harder time because their tent is more overtly incongruous: where, exactly, does the Bible demand tax cuts for the rich and fewer benefits for the lower classes (sorry, moocher class)? So right from the start, there are some cognitive dissonances that need to be overcome. Preaching rugged individualism to a working class white male who has come to the realization that he is pretty much guaranteed to die in debt can't work forever, unless you also play to his prejudice and fear ("sorry you have it rough, but it will get even worse if those people start receiving more stuffs). The left, on the other hand, serves an enormous throbbing clitoris-shaped goddess that can only stimulated by issues pertaining to equality and harm and how they relate to your identity, so it is much, much easier to dovetail. You, as a democratic socialist tell an ethical vegan that people are suffering (harm! lick lick stroke) because of the inequities (equality! rub lick rub) inherent to a capitalist society, and the vegan can identify with the argument and perhaps become an ally, because they spend much of their day wailing over their perceived suffering of broiler chickens (harm! rub lick rub) due to humanity's callous speciesism (equality! lick lick stroke) -- there's just a much greater capacity for synergy over there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Because my hatred for Ted Cruz burns brighter every day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Cruz never said the thing about less disease (http://www.snopes.com/politics/cruz/cpac.asp). He is, however, utterly horrible, and I celebrate your hatred! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 If it will keep him from being nominated, I'm willing to repeat the lie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Because pictures of Ted Cruz freak me out please enjoy this gem from some of own homegrown radicals: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeygirl Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 3 of those are just modified bathroom signs, The genital mutation one looks like a warning to women wanting to smuggle scissors onto an airplane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Ha! I thought it was a decorative bow on her dress. So many things about that bother me that was posted by a friend. Not the least of which is the ignorance concerning religion and history. However I think my favorite is jihad being a hand with a knife. That one makes me chuckle. So many other ways to show that and the worst or scariest jihad is a downward stab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 youve never heard of downward stab jihad how lucky 4 u it is the scariest kind of jihad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeygirl Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Bernie just took WA State in the caucus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Is that a surprise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Will I ever reach a point in my life where I hear the word caucus without giggling? I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 This was actually posted by an uber librul in a thread discussing how terrifying the mindset of Trump and his supporters is, but I chuckled: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 That makes Trump seem pretty awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 awesome you think racist misogynist terrorists are awesome what is rong with u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 lol silly conservatard fetuses arent ppl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 pong! I bet you wish your liburals were this funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 pong! I bet you wish your liburals were this funny.Funny you'd say that. I know very few conservatives in real life, but have some entertaining and seriously whacked out ones in the gaming groups I belong to. It's not a constant stream of political rants, maybe a drip drop of comments here and there, and when you click on their profile, it's pretty obvious where they stand. Now, they believe a lot of truly stupid (and factually incorrect) ****, but to give credit where it is due, a lot of them have good senses of humor and can laugh at themselves, which is more than I can say about the Portlandia crowd. I've been thinking about that a fair amount lately: there are very few (no?) funny comedians who come from a culturally conservative perspective. There are a few (mostly writers) who are ideologically conservative; usually they have more of a libertarian than socially conservative outlook. Meanwhile, most of the funniest comedians are both culturally and ideologically liberal. I don't think this is a matter of opinion, liberals are just straight up funnier. Yet -- and here's where it gets weird -- among people I interact with, if somebody comes off as self-righteous and utterly humorless, it's a sure bet they are also a rabid Bernie Sanders supporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsidian Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 pong! I bet you wish your liburals were this funny.Funny you'd say that. I know very few conservatives in real life, but have some entertaining and seriously whacked out ones in the gaming groups I belong to. It's not a constant stream of political rants, maybe a drip drop of comments here and there, and when you click on their profile, it's pretty obvious where they stand. Now, they believe a lot of truly stupid (and factually incorrect) ****, but to give credit where it is due, a lot of them have good senses of humor and can laugh at themselves, which is more than I can say about the Portlandia crowd. I've been thinking about that a fair amount lately: there are very few (no?) funny comedians who come from a culturally conservative perspective. There are a few (mostly writers) who are ideologically conservative; usually they have more of a libertarian than socially conservative outlook. Meanwhile, most of the funniest comedians are both culturally and ideologically liberal. I don't think this is a matter of opinion, liberals are just straight up funnier. Yet -- and here's where it gets weird -- among people I interact with, if somebody comes off as self-righteous and utterly humorless, it's a sure bet they are also a rabid Bernie Sanders supporter. The explanation I've heard for that is that liberals, in general, tend to be outside of and opposed to the status quo, and the most successful humor is that which mocks and pokes holes in the status quo ('punching up' as they say). While conservatives, being part of the status quo by definition, are not capable of taking the kind of jabs at it that liberals are. Thus, conservative comedy is either completely apolitical, which can be funny but is not as universally appealing as satire is, or involves mean-spirited attacks on the disenfranchised ('punching down'), which alienates anyone who doesn't already share their viewpoints. The best comedy comes from a place of weakness. The audience can relate to the shared suffering of a comedian struggling to get by, and who is therefor taking jabs at the existing power structure that leaves them disenfranchised. They can also relate to a comedian gently skewering those who try to change the system in ineffective ways, like Portland Hipsters and such. It is admirable to see a comedian going after those more powerful than them. David vs Goliath, the little guy picking a fight with those powerful enough to crush them, and winning in a way? That's something audiences can relate to. It's why George Carlin was so well liked. His comedy was all about skewering and deflating powerful cultural institutions in a way that removed some of their power. Audiences cannot relate to some rich prick mocking a poor person who has to work three jobs just to put food on their table for their children, as conservative 'comedy' often is. The comedian then looks like a bully and an as*hole, which he is. He is the powerful picking on the powerless. That's never funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 This has been passed around all morning. The thing that is worrisome to me is that it seems like satire, and I know in many cases it is, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Obama's America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeygirl Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 https://www.yahoo.com/news/a-brief-history-of-the-1413063394852918.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Last couple of days, anybody daring to say anything even remotely negative about Sanders (or remotely positive about Clinton) has been labeled a "Shillary Trollbot," which is kind of silly in and of itself (I know people who support Clinton; do Bernie's most fervent supporters talk to anybody outside their social circle?), but after tonight's election results they are in full meltdown mode. Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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