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Verbatim Quotes from Republicans about Clinton going into Bosnia


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Found this via Digg. Some of them are just downright spooky, especially the last one.

“You can support the troops but not the president.”
–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

“Well, I just think it’s a bad idea. What’s going to happen is they’re going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years.”
–Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

“Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?”
–Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

“[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.”
–Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)”

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy.”
–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

“If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy.”
–Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush

“I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn’t think we had done enough in the diplomatic area.”
–Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

“I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today”
–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
– Governor George W. Bush ®-TX


It's downright funny how drastically things change over eight or nine years.

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Yeah about as haunting as the Iran Contra hearings with Oliver North being drilled by at the time Senator Al Gore. The year is 1987.

Gore: "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

North: " Yes I did."

Gore: "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

North: "No, sir,"

Gore: "No? And why not?"

North: "Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

Gore: "Threatened? By whom?"

North: "By a terrorist, sir"

Gore: "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

North: "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir"

Gore: Why are you so afraid of this man?"

North: "Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of"

Gore: "And what do you recommend we do about him?"

North: "Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

Gore: Didn't agree with that response.



Or how about this one.



Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986.

The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any prisoners with blood on their hands.

The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all such prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed.

Eventually, he thanked the U.S for helping him to obtain his freedom by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center.

This was reported by many of the American Television networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.

The door swings both ways my friend.

For the record we should have quickly stepped in 1992 to put an end to the violence in the Balkans, but when you have weak foreign policy then over a million people get killed as a result. All it would have taken was a strong American presense in the region to shut up the Serbs. However this is what happens when a region of the world is controlled from 1946-1989 by the communists and told to be good Yugoslavians and to ignore the hatred you have for your non-serbian neighbors. That situation is an example of what happens when you allow 500 years of hatred to last in a region.

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A few of my favorites

If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program. --William J. Clinton

One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line. -- William J. Clinton

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

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Furthermore the situation in Bosnia at the time showed no clear threat to this country like the war on terror we are fighting right now, other than the refugee camps set up by the U.N. in Macedonia for ethnic albanians became a recruiting center for Islamic fundamentalists that we are dealing with now.

Bosnia and the war on terror is comparing apples and oranges. We should have also had a presense in Rwanda as well.

Of course that would mean I'm all for policing the world right?

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Yeah about as haunting as the Iran Contra hearings with Oliver North being drilled by at the time Senator Al Gore. The year is 1987.

Gore: "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

North: " Yes I did."

Gore: "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

North: "No, sir,"

Gore: "No? And why not?"

North: "Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

Gore: "Threatened? By whom?"

North: "By a terrorist, sir"

Gore: "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

North: "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir"

Gore: Why are you so afraid of this man?"

North: "Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of"

Gore: "And what do you recommend we do about him?"

North: "Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

Gore: Didn't agree with that response.

That's supposed exchange between North and Gore is absolute horse****, dude.

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Whoa. What's with all the Republican bashing. Why can't we just center ourselves on politicians in general?

That said, context is EVERYthing.

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That's supposed exchange between North and Gore is absolute horse****, dude.


as is the mohammad atta copy and paste that he posted, completely false. this is how republicans use the internet.

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Ironic when you consider HS recently said this on another thread:

Researching the web 101 is take everything you read and see on the internet with a grain of salt if it has this at the end of it, .com, .net, .org. .gov

If you want the least biased information then search for information with .edu on the end of it, which stands for educational.

There is more bad information on the internet than good information and any wack job can build a website these days and publish their mumbo jumbo as fact and people who don't understand the difference between fact and opinion will think what they say is fact and that is very dangerous. Everything on that site is slanting big time leftist/borderline socialist.


:lol: Wow!

As for the topic, Obviously the Republicans in the 1990's all hated America and didn't support the troops D-Ray.

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The actual terrorist mentioned by North in his testimony was the infamous Abu Nidal. Abu makes Osama look like a really nice guy. An uncle of mine (Lt. Col. Thomas Harvey) was an NSC staff member during Iran Contra and reported directly to George Bush. He gave testimony for the trial and was at least a go-between for various individuals involved and the White House. He also served on the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I'd love to pick his brain with all of the stuff he's been involved in but, I'm sure he wouldn't talk.

I haven't found too much info about his involvement in Iran Contra. From what I know of him personally he's wealthy, connected, and seemingly shielded from too much inquiry. During Iran Contra, he wouldn't answer any questions my family had about it and what his involvement might be, I mean nothing, nada, zilch.... wouldn't even barely acknowlege it.

There's one article I found on it with him mentioned and according to this he was knee-deep in the situation. I've researched this article a bit and compared some of the information with other sources. It seems to check out so far but, there's not a whole lot of info out there on many of the angles presented in it.... especially info pertaining to my Uncle.

Here's a link to the article if anyone's interested....

http://www.bwbadge.com/bush.htm

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9/11.

Close please.

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Good job. You get an A for the day Pong. My experiment worked. That is false statement I deliberately posted on here to hopefully prove a point. I received the email the other day from someone and saved it for this experiment. Why do you think I was preaching so much about the internet in the other thread with moveon.org?

Good job Pong.

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:lol: No he didn't...he did! OMG! He did! :lol:

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Whoa. What's with all the Republican bashing. Why can't we just center ourselves on politicians in general?


How dare you question our sacred liberal traditions!

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In other words, the pissing contest in this thread just proves one point; that all politicians are, dare I say it, "flip-floppers", the basis of their opinions changing like night and day depending whether its a Republican or Democrat administration in office.

And basically all of you going back and forth trying to one up each other on which party is more hypocritical are the sheep.

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Good job. You get an A for the day Pong. My experiment worked. That is false statement I deliberately posted on here to hopefully prove a point. I received the email the other day from someone and saved it for this experiment. Why do you think I was preaching so much about the internet in the other thread with moveon.org?

Good job Pong.

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Good job. You get an A for the day Pong. My experiment worked. That is false statement I deliberately posted on here to hopefully prove a point. I received the email the other day from someone and saved it for this experiment. Why do you think I was preaching so much about the internet in the other thread with moveon.org?

Good job Pong.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

If you believe that, Pong, I've got a bridge in New York to sell you.

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Wow. People are just striking gold left and right -- random quotes that show how politicians will support anything that is in line with their own interests. And this is surprising how? They're politicians. They don't believe in what they say or do anymore, at least partly anyway. Who gives a s*** whether they're Republicans or Democrats. They're all the same; they just all want something different. I don't think they really know what they want anymore.

The only thing that differentiates them anymore is just how much they still care about anything outside their own parties. Obviously, Republicans will tend to side with their own and Deomcrats will tend to side with their own (and that's fine, that's actually part of what makes the system work), but some are more willing to work with the other side than others. Some focus on the issues while others simply follow party lines. For example, Rudy Guliani is a Republican, and he will always lean to the Republican side. However, he doesn't simply follow the "mainstream party lines" in specific issues. Joseph Liberman is the same way on the other side, although he is now an Independent.

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Thing is, PMJ, that people still cling to the belief in what these people say.

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I almost forgot.

Good job. You get an A for the day Pong. My experiment worked. That is false statement I deliberately posted on here to hopefully prove a point. I received the email the other day from someone and saved it for this experiment. Why do you think I was preaching so much about the internet in the other thread with moveon.org?

Good job Pong.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Hammurabi, you are the master of sarcasm.

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I love posting these kind of things in here. It's like throwing scraps to the dogs and watching them fight over it.

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Oh, so now, you are the one testing... ;)

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In other words, the pissing contest in this thread just proves one point; that all politicians are, dare I say it, "flip-floppers", the basis of their opinions changing like night and day depending whether its a Republican or Democrat administration in office.

And basically all of you going back and forth trying to one up each other on which party is more hypocritical are the sheep.


I know this isn't necessarily what you intended but the only point your post proved for me was how grossed out I can get at the mental image of sheep in a pissing contest.

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Grossed out = excited

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That's the sort of thing that really sets the powder keg in the hen house along the cliff's edge of the horse's mouth.

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Furthermore the situation in Bosnia at the time showed no clear threat to this country


Neither did Iraq when we attacked them.



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