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Wrestlemania 21 Discussion Thread
Posted 20 January 2005 - 09:19 AM
My point is that it would take a stroke of brilliance, something absent these days in WWE creative production, to make this a huge match. It would still be a great match w/ lots of awesome buildup, much like Undertaker vs Flair from WM18 in Toronto, but it wouldn't be highly regarded as a classic if it weren't built up as a classic. They would have to stress that this is the big moment for Orton where he either proves to be all hype or the guy that can lead WWE into the future as a superstar. I think it could be done.
Orton vs Hogan could be a huge draw, one spanning two different generations & all the territory in between. Hogan could very well be the fan favorite in this match, because fans from the 80's & 90's of his WWF face run, fans of his nWo days in WCW in the mid to late 90's, and even bandwagon fans that jumped on during his last WWE run would definitely outnumber Ortons small (but growing) fanbase. If Orton got the win, there's a good chance that he'd make enemies (if you wanna call them that) out of Hogan fans. But seriously, there's something to be said of the impact that it could have on Ortons career if he were to have this match & pick up this win, especially if he's a main eventer. It didn't mean much when Hogan jobbed out to 'Taker & Jericho back in '02, but when he jobbed to Lesnar it was a very big deal because that's how they booked it. I'm sure they'd book it similarly, if not better, for their 3rd-generation young talent who they're trying to make look better than Lesnar at this point.
Posted 20 January 2005 - 09:25 AM
Posted 20 January 2005 - 09:30 AM
Posted 20 January 2005 - 10:06 AM
Posted 20 January 2005 - 09:51 PM
Again, as EX said, it depends on how it's booked. Hogan has chrisma, chrisma can draw interest. I doubt the match will happen, but I would find it interesting none the less, then have hogan retire, and pass the tourch.
At this point, though, I, at least, wouldn't buy a victory over Hogan to mean much of anything for Orton that's different than any of his random Raw encounters with various legends even if it was built up tremendously.
Posted 21 January 2005 - 08:28 PM
Posted 22 January 2005 - 02:34 AM
Posted 22 January 2005 - 12:59 PM
Yes, this would be a second chance for him. Considering his job to Rock ment nothing, considering Rock is a part time jobber now.
You mean like he should have at wmx8?
Posted 22 January 2005 - 01:26 PM
Posted 22 January 2005 - 05:50 PM
Posted 22 January 2005 - 09:18 PM
Posted 24 January 2005 - 08:01 PM
Posted 25 January 2005 - 07:26 AM
The Rock apparently wanted to face Sting at WrestleMania this year since it would be a "special match," but it now looks like he won't work the show at all. Vince McMahon and WWE seem to be sending The Rock a message that they don't need him anymore and are thus not even attempting to negotiate a new contract extention with him. At this point, The Rock isn't expected to work WrestleMania unless the two sides are able to do a 180 and work out new terms.
(sighs) At least somebody knows what's good for business...
Posted 25 January 2005 - 08:46 AM
- Shawn Michaels vs Kurt Angle
- Kane & Undertaker vs Gene Snitsky & Heidenreich
If not the above, then as previously rumored:
- Randy Orton vs Undertaker
Apparently, these matches have been discussed & talked about by WWE & have a decent shot at happening. It seems WWE is going to test the HBK/Angle waters, so to speak, by having them wrestle in Japan during their Japanese tour.
Posted 25 January 2005 - 09:56 PM
Some rumored matches are posted here (sorry about the pop-ups).
If this is the best they can do, WM 21 looks mighty disappointing. I mean I like Batista and he is majorly over, but main event at WM ready? I think not. I mean looking at this card I think it's concievable that both heels will win there matches. Angle v. HBK may be good. I wish we could have seen this a few years ago. I understand the Orton losing to Taker arguement, but it's a match we almost certainly know the outcome of. I'd really love to see Orton win Sunday and have Edge win the Rumble, leading to that as a main event. But I don't write for WWE.
Also, Austin and Foley are pretty much confirmed for WM21. Hogan is very likely to make some appearance. The Rock is expected to settle in time for the event but his match and Sting's appearance likely hinder on that. Bret Hart will definately not appear this year. Maybe next year.
Posted 25 January 2005 - 10:09 PM
Personally I think these Sting for WM rumors are bogus or completely blown out of proportion by the internet media. I think it's just a way to have his name in an article title to gain hits. Sting has been a tough man to negotiate with in the past since WCW's purchase, so I find it very hard to believe that all of a sudden, a couple months before Wrestlemania, they get him to agree to appear.
Posted 25 January 2005 - 10:56 PM
Posted 25 January 2005 - 11:47 PM
With jobbers like Batista and Bradshaw as their main men they need him now more than ever. The WWE upper card has not been so boring since 1995.
Grand Admiral Exodus:
Vince McMahon and WWE seem to be sending The Rock a message that they don't need him anymore.
Posted 26 January 2005 - 02:37 AM
Personally I think the upper card is just now getting interesting again after two or three years of utter staleness. But to each his own on that aspect.
Posted 26 January 2005 - 07:40 AM
Posted 26 January 2005 - 02:16 PM
Or the mighty heel coach! Their both on raw.
Posted 26 January 2005 - 07:35 PM
The sad part is that rumors were floating around that JBL may hold the title through Summerslam. Ahhhhhhhhhhh! I'd love to see Eddie get the title again now that more established talent is in the main event picture on Smackdown and the pressure will be off him.
And maybe Batista is ready for WM main event. I'm pretty sure he'll get a shorter title run than Benoit and then he'll probably fade back into the middle card.
I also agree about Rock. I'd love to see him come back full time. I guess we'll just have to hope that he keeps making poorly written and cliche movies no one goes to see.
Posted 26 January 2005 - 07:44 PM
Posted 26 January 2005 - 08:22 PM
Posted 27 January 2005 - 07:42 AM
I will lmao if coach acidently wins.