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  1. See, I hear that and know that multi-Doctor shows are a tradition that goes back to 1973 *AND* that Doctor Who is a national institution in the UK so I say: What's geeky about it?

     

    Yeah, I saw "The Five Doctors" too. It's important to remember that I don't mean geeky pejoratively and would define it here as a reliance upon details of the show's history to provide content and context. So it's always cool to hear lines like "Been a while since I reversed the polarity of the neutron flow" and see mentions of UNIT and Time Lord costumes straight of storage. But it's the sort of thing that's likely to go over the head of uninformed viewers. For example : Paul McGann offered to do a regeneration cameo right at the beginning of the series to set up the new Doctor. He was declined because the whole thing would be too confusing to people who had never seen the TV movie or even those who weren't quite as familiar with Doctor Who as your usual fan. Yeah, it's a national institution in the UK. So's NASCAR in the US. Doesn't mean there isn't a sizable segment of the population who ignore/despise it. I imagine that to your average British citizen the impact of the show is basically restricted to being scared of the Daleks when they were kids.

     

    The show has been seriously relying on a knowledge of its own history for quite a while. I find that geeky while loving it at the same time.

  2. Haven't all the finales ended with a quick tease for the upcoming Christmas special? I remember last year pulled the exact same shtick right down to the same reaction from the Doctor.

     

    The show's first episode had a reference to the Ninth Doctor being somehow involved with the Titanic. Two of them, actually. Wonder if that'll be acknowledged or ignored.

  3. As for Jack/Boe, when first introduced in the show even Cassandra "the last human" was hardly that.

     

    I thought she was said to be "the last Earthling". I certainly remember that she was the last 'pure' human and all the rest had interbred with other races and were considered mongrels in her eyes.

     

    Transducer, your theory makes good sense to me. The Master wouldn't allow himself to die permanently from the black hole engine thingmabob but had a contingency plan in place for other circumstances. As to the Mistress joining in the Grand Psychic Lovefest, I took that as an indication of her own conflicted feelings (as evidenced when we first meet her through that reporter lady) on the matter. I wonder if the plan was even overt at all or possibly just The Master playing on her emotions and knowing what the results would be.

     

    Quick informal poll : the drums. Just his own madness or the evil spirit of time or whatever taking the Master over? I think if he's resurrected it'll turn out to be the Martial Call of the Vortex and if he's left dead it was probably just his own meshugas.

  4. What? What? What?

     

    Power of love saves the day. Again.

     

    How can Jack be the Face of Boe? I'm gonna quote his dying words one more time :

     

    "I am the last of my kind just as you are the last of yours, Doctor. But, know this, Time Lord....you are not alone."

     

    He certainly wasn't the last human around. I suppose you could stretch things and say that he was thinking of himself as the sole remaining Time Agent or something.

     

    I thought the show had reached the zenith of campy musical awesomeness with "Voodoo Child" playing as the world dies and the Master's wife awkwardly dances along to it. And then it one-ups itself with John Simm acting as a tyrant disc jockey manically singing the Scissor Sisters while he makes out with his girl, spits cold tea at his servants, and wheels a dying Doctor around his flying air fortress. Oh, show. I can only presume that the Master spent the ENTIRE YEAR doing this over and over. :lol:

     

    An uneven albeit awkwardly satisfying finale. Much like the whole year, really.

  5. Are you saying that Finding Nemo wasn't mostly comedy? Cuz it was.

     

    Nonsense. It was clearly a horror flick. Ellen DeGeneres had a starring role!

     

    Ahem. A serious response now.

     

    I found your ratio of 75% comedy to be a little excessive. I don't remember laughing through three quarters of any Pixar film and I doubt anyone else here would say different. What I said was basically a sarcastic rejoinder to that perceived error rather than a refutation of the general truth of your claim. In this instance you are basically in the right. If the comedy was excised from 'Toy Story' it'd basically be a CGI adaptation of a Nick Cave song as directed by Tim Burton.

     

    Just to be clear, and I don't mean to insult, this is more of a "stopped clock is right twice a day" situation rather than a general agreement with your point-of-view on the films themselves. You think these films were dumbed down for kids. I see the reverse. Children's material has been elevated to the status of adult entertainment. So, there's that then.

  6. Every Pixar movie has been at least 75% comedy

     

    The one about the widowed father's desperate search for his kidnapped son was a real laugh riot. Remember that first bit where not only the mother dies but nearly all her children too? Fuhh-nny.

  7. I direct you to Dumbo's mother cuddling Dumbo in her trunk in their brief moments together, both of them knowing it will end soon.

     

    Seconded. Anyone who questions the ability of the animated form to convey emotion should watch this scene. Ideally, they should do this at three-and-three-quarters years of age. They must be wearing their favourite pair of footie pajamas and must view the movie at their grandparents' house. These are the ideal conditions in which to experience the true power of those moments.

     

    Also, it helps if at the time you secretly believe that you are not human and are actually an elephant. Just another tip, that's all.

     

    Andorus - I am obviously made of sterner stuff than you. I can blink back my tears up until the Robot Jesus actually sacrifices himself for mankind, whereupon the water works just let loose.

  8. Excellent. I see we're dropping the spoiler text. Good.

     

    Really, they remind me of the Gelth. And with the rift...

     

    They're voiced by the same person, Zoe Thorn. I doubt it's significant. The Daleks, the Cybermen, the Nestene Consciousness from the first episode, all of them were voiced by the same fella. If the Toclefane turn out to be the Gelth, I'll be extremely surprised.

     

    UK Legend, I'm with you on your description of the Time Lords. That's the very reason the revelation of what they turn into would be so painful to the Doctor. And I emphasize that this wouldn't have happened willingly but would most likely be the result of an accident or something along those lines. Their disembodied psychic essences taking on the nature of the thing they most feared in order to protect themselves, something like that. The Master steps in, takes control, and uses them to literally decimate (what a lovely touch that was) Earth's population to the sound of ominous yet cheery pop music.

     

    Actually, having given the subject a little more thought my top theory as to their identity is a bit different. I think they're all that remains of the human race and possibly the result of reaching Utopia from the previous episode. They spoke of "avoiding the common darkness" or something along those lines. The TARDIS which was used to bring their full numbers into the present was explicitly described as being locked into the time'n'space of the previous episode's location. I imagine what awaited those survivors on the rocket wasn't a real Utopia but either some sort of trap by the Master (I'm recalling Derek Jacobi's sneering tone about the place once he began his sabotage) or some other baddie. Seeing as it was the Doctor who managed to get them there in the first place, the reveal that he'd led the last remnants of humanity to their death would be fairly disheartening. The more I think about it, the more I prefer to the Time Lord possibility.

     

    Toc le fane, incidentally, seems to mean either "fool the fans" or "**** the fans" in French. Or so other message boards are saying.

  9. It's Vin Diesel's greatest movie moment. Seriously.

     

    It's his only movie moment. Oh snap! Take that, wildly successful millionaire actor!

     

    I :heart: you.

     

    [EdwardJamesOlmos]You've done a man's job, sir.[/EdwardJamesOlmos]

  10. Hah. I saw a Youtube video of people having the same reaction. :lol:

     

    Wow. I was expecting far more resolution to the setting of last week's episode. The show took us out of there in, what, two seconds?

     

    The Master is not only the Evil Doctor but Evil Tony Blair as well.

     

    Gallifrey. Squeee!

     

    I'm making a bet that the Toclefane are gonna turn out to somehow be the Gallifreyans themselves. The last remnants of their consciousness placed into mechanical form, taking on the name of the childhood boogeyman they irrationally feared? They were certainly presented as infantile and simplistic and the show is going out of its way to imply that there's some mystery behind them and that they're more than just Aliens of the Week. We'll see.

     

    All in all, this is the sort of thing that plays to the strengths (or is that weaknesses?) of Russel T. Davies. Over the top, filled with inexplicable little turns, hackneyed attempts at political commentary, odd nods to both modern and classic continuity, and a shmaltzy emphasis on the Companion's family. Except everything somehow became more than the sum of its parts and turned into pure awesome. Can't wait for the season finale.

  11. Could Boe have saved more Time Lords?

     

    Unlikely. Here's his dying words to the Doctor :

     

    "I am the last of my kind just as you are the last of yours, Doctor. But, know this, Time Lord....you are not alone."

     

    It seems clear to me that at the time he was told this the Doctor was literally the only remaining Time Lord alive in existence. The Master was human with his Gallifreyan consciousness suspended in the watch. Nevertheless, the fact that some remnant of his people exists in some potential form was what was being communicated. Whether the YANNA equals You Are Not Alone stuff was just Russel T. Davies playing about or some sort of legitimate hint to the Doctor within the confines of the story remains to be seen. Is it the Face of Boe playing wordgames or just the show's creative staff?

     

    I wouldn't be so sure that it was the Face of Boe who was necessarily responsible per se for the Master's survival so much as he was merely aware of it. And I wonder if the Master being human at the end of time wasn't a strategy to survive the Time War so much as an escape route from the justice of his fellow Time Lords which serendipitously saved him from the War as well. He didn't seem to have any clue or to care at all about what the Doctor was yelling ("There's only us now, it's over! It doesn't have to be like this!" was a nice touch), the gist of which seemed to be trying to inform the Master that everyone else was dead and that it was time to forgive and forget.

     

    Whatever. We'll see how it all turns out in the end.

  12. I cry at the end of The Iron Giant every time. :thumbsup:

     

    Excellent. You pass the Voight-Kampff test and can be presumed to be human. Good for you!

     

    The Iron Giant sucked.

     

    Hmmm. You're in the desert. You see a tortoise lying on its back, struggling, and you're not helping. Why is that?

  13. Likewise, ewww.

     

    That wasn't where I was going at all.

     

    I was thinking it'd be neat if the show somehow had the Doctor have a companion who was the last of the human race. Oddly enough, this episode already established that Cap'n Jack would be a fair contender for that title. So they could make that explicit (ewwww! I mean, make it obvious!) through him or could even choose one of the many people knocking about there at the End of the Universe. Either way, I think it'd be an interesting direction for the show to go on to. And since they've added Barrowman to the cast itself I'm starting to wonder whether this isn't fanficcy so much as a decent guess as to where they're heading with his character.

  14. I'm not much of a Bird fan myself. I find him to be heavyhanded.

     

    A fair criticism. I guess it just depends on how wide the range is of how you apply that term. He might be that way to you but in comparison with those who'd I consider heavyhanded he has a fairly nimble touch. "Love and family conquers all" is the sort of theme that tends to be beaten intr annihilation. "You are what you choose to be!" If I had a choice, I'd ratheo our heads by those who choose it and I think Bird's use of it stands as a good example of how to swim in that pool without choosing to happily drown in it. Err, to mix my metaphors in a powder keg of righteous retribution topped by a precipice from which none can return!

     

    "SOOOOPER-MAN".

     

    What? Not even a little bit moved?

  15. Besides being a nice little moment on its own the show also seems to be echoing the words of Harriet Jones who said something similar (but well-intentioned) in the exact same situation when she was Prime Minister.

     

    A small clue some of you might have missed : when Derek Jacobi was talking about the pocket watch and how he got it he mentions he was found as a child "on the fringe of the Silver Devastation". Which was where the Face of Boe was introduced as having arrived from way back in the first season. So hopefully the show isn't just using that character to lead us into the Master's arrival and then dispose of him without providing an explanation as to how the two are connected.

     

    I also thought it was cool (and possibly significant) that the alien insectlady lab assistant was also the last of her species. Just like the Master and the Doctor, or so they both thought up until this episode. And the clear parallels between her and Martha as well as all companions in general puts a fanficcy idea into my head of where this storyline might be heading.

  16. In The Incredibles commentary, Brad Bird states that animation is not a genre. It is one form of media to present a story, but it is not its own genre. Any study of anime proves that.

     

    A similar situation is the general impression people get when you say "comic book". Just because the ostensibly most predominant form of a medium is a specific genre that doesn't make the whole medium itself simultaneous to the same genre. It's like assuming that the only thing that can be done on a radio is commercials because that's what you usually hear.

     

    Also, Brad Bird is a genius. A loud yelling eccentric genius who is probably a little bit crazy ("I have said time and time again! WE USE EVERY PART OF THE BUFFALO!") but a genius nonetheless. When the whole world watches the scene where the robot from The Iron Giant says "SOOOPER-MAN" , well, we shall have peace on earth and goodwill towards all men. It's just that powerful.

  17. Just curious: have you seen FF7:AC?

     

    Uh, no. I haven't. Some might say that this indicates a clear and present flaw in my judgment of that movie's quality. And by "some" I mean "anyone with brains" and by "judgment" I mean "illogical and unfounded presumption". So, yeah, you got me there.

     

    As the de facto leader of animation, yeah it is. Under their stewardship, American animation has fallen into a terrible rut.

     

    I'd blame their competitors for that rather than Pixar themselves. Dreamworks and other studios took a look at the nature of the movies Pixar has been making and threw out cheap'n'quick imitations. They should have followed their example rather than just playing a game of monkey see and monkey do. You refer to Pixar's role in the marketplace as stewardship but I just see the sad fact that Hollywood approaches these things with the wrong mindset.

     

    Really, both our positions are a little unreasonable. You (and to be fair, others) think a creative and well-run studio should have more variety in their product rather than sticking to what they do best. I (and, scant evidence aside, others too hopefully) would like the entire dynamic of how movies are made to be changed. Both of us are wishing for things that are unlikely. Pixar is probably never going to decide that it has the job of presenting the entire plethora of styles and genres to the American public and their competition isn't about to spontaneously focus on a specialty rather than just tossing out more and cheaper versions of Pixar's style.

  18. Nathan has his own show (called Drive or some ****)

     

    And look at what a steady gig that turned out to be! FYI : that show was canceled after two nights on TV. The remaining episodes are being thrown on the air over the 4th of July.

     

    I, for one, remain uninterested in the prospect of even EU materials for the 'Verse. The comic series Joss Whedon co-wrote with Brett Mathews was a pretty uninspired (albeit well drawn and with a few cool moments) link between the series and the movie. Even if they did a Firefly : Season 2 ala the current Buffy comics I probably wouldn't be too enthused about getting it. Probably the only thing that would perk my interest would be something completely new from what's currently available rather than more of what we've received i.e a book, movie, live-action series, or comic. If there was a Firefly computer game or animated series (heck, a radio drama) that would really draw my attention and would be the sort of thing I'd be up for.

     

    And this is coming from someone who loved the series and the movie so much I say "BEE-jway neen hen BOO-TEE-TYEH duh NAN-shung!" whenever I re-watch 'em.

  19. Wow. I'm surprised to see that Final Fantasy drek getting any votes at all.

     

    As can be seen here I am quite biased in this matter. And while I was exaggerating slightly, well, The Incredibles is just an amazing movie on so many levels that I become honestly surprised when someone admits to disliking it. I have a similar level of devotion to Brad Bird's previous film "The Iron Giant" with a slightly greater tolerance for the possible idea that someone somewhere might somehow not enjoy it quite as much as I do.

     

    Related tangent--I never saw Polar Express, but the trailers looked freaky enough. That movie was 100% mocap, I think. And the characters looked utterly lifeless.

     

    Yep. That's a psychological phenomenon referred to as the 'uncanny valley'. Basically, detail equals cuteness so long as there's a sizable gap between the level of that detail and the actual reality of the object being presented. If you get too close but don't hit it on the dot the subtle wrongness of the image starts to creep you out like a mechanical creeping machine from Creeptown, Missouri. Ahem. If you want a better explanation minus the vagueness and the crazy then this should be more than enough.

     

    As for why I don't particularly like Pixar's stuff (save the Incredibles), it's because they constantly reinforce the thought in America that animation is a strictly for kids thing. Sure, they make it enjoyable 'enough' for adults, but what have they put out that you can honestly say is not at it's heart a kids' movie? I want the American attitude toward animation to move more towards how it is in Japan. Could you imagine CG movies w/ the plot & action of stuff like Princess Mononoke, Ninja Scroll, or Grave of the Fireflys? It would destroy any present Pixar crap. I would love to see a Miyazaki movie in CG, but who would finance such a high priced risk?

     

    Isn't that a little bit like disliking a pizza store because people are choosing to eat there rather than frequenting sushi restaurants or even opening up their own? Is it really Pixar's job to expand the genre expectations of the American public any more than they already have? And I think that it's the one studio that HAS struck down the notion that animation isn't strictly a kids thing and opened up the public to the idea that these movies can be enjoyable to everyone attending them.

     

    To sum up : me like Pixar much. Greatly looking forward to Wall*e.

     

    (Err, I actually haven't seen their last two films. Mostly because they looked thoroughly mediocre from their trailers and I didn't want to be disappointed if they turned out to be even less than awesome. So I have to admit that I don't really know what I'm talking about here.)

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