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  1. As for Kylo— they gave him all the same weakness we knew Anakin was supposed to have— impatient, more powerful than he should be, and selfish. They just did it without making him petulant and whiney. 

  2. There’s different types of actors and different types of directors.

    Some directors really focus on performance, others, others the visuals, some are technicians that are more about the process and finished product as opposed to working a single scene to death. Lucas falls as a hybrid of the last two. He director from video village wanting to see what the final product was on his monitors. He was less concerned about the acting as he was composing. Some directors get back there with the DP to make sure it’s all blocked and framed the way the want, then trust the DP to stay on point and they’ll go get into the depth of the scene on set with the actors.

    I would add to that even the best written stuff can seem stilted when you are on set and just looking at raw footage without grading or proper sound. 

    And yea, the script was god awful. But some actors can rise above the material. Ewan McGregor has some of the worst lines in the PT but we all love him and his portrayal. He has a way of making it work.

    Some actors can’t do that on their own. A lot of actors need to have a director (or even writer) to help them. Actors have weird brains. On my TV we rotated directors and they were there to block and motivate— but there were a few times the actors needed to know deeper motivations, or stuff that was coming, things that they maybe haven’t even read yet. That’s when I would step in to talk to them. The best performances require really tight collaboration between the actor, director, and the writer/script.

    Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman have both been stellar in other films, but we’re awful in the PT. They needed a director to really work with them, and Lucas wasn’t really into doing that— watch any BTS footage of the PT, or even the OT, and you can see it.

    So at the end of the day, it’s on Lucas. Triple so, as he wrote, directed, and cast the film.

    This is actually why I bet both HC and EM agreed to do the Obi-Wan show. They are going to have a chance to revisit things with better writing and directing. TCW sort of worked as an apology for the PT, and Mando absolutely gave fans what they wanted from the ST. I think the Obi-Wan show will be the biggest make-right apology yet.

  3. 2 hours ago, The Choc said:

    Im not sure of this. I really do think Johnson's intent with Rey closing the door on him at the end of the TLJ was that he was done with his chances to come back. Having said that although I to think turning him back was the wrong choice it's not indefensible. Plus some of the decisions used in his redemption were right like having it be a memory of his father that pushed him in that direction. As opposed to the decisions with Rey which are kind of hard to even fathom how anyone could think they were good decisions. 

    Its funny though I almost don't even consider TROS when thinking of Star Wars. Not in some "head cannon" way where I pretend something else happened. I just don;'t even think about it. Ive watched the movie 3 times. Twice in the theaters and then once when it came out on Disney+. I can;t imagine ever watching it again. Im not angry about it, I just don't care about it. 

     

     

    I’m not saying it was well done, or even consistent— just that Kylo’s arc was something that was at least, on paper, the same between the films.

  4. Also, I always go back to infiltrator builds as well. Liara and Garrus also being my go tos for most missions in ME3 for the best combos and variety of attack types. Garrus and Jack for ME2.

    As for that clone… I always play Citadel last before the final mission so I’m pretty maxed out. I like Flare as my bonus power as it creates nice satisfying explodes detonations.  I also max out tactical claim to be able to have a free attack in cloak. I also tend to run light with only a single weapon (scoped assault rifle or a sniper rifle with high ROF).

     As infiltrator with Garrus and Liara, I would hit my tactical cloak so the clone loses me, have Garrus hit him with overload to stall his attacks, then have Liara hit him with warp or Singularity and then hit him with Flare while still cloaked. When I drop out I get to cover and take a few shots at him with grenades or my gun from cover. Wait for cool down, and repeat.

    If definitely played with other builds where the clone was a nightmare.

  5. To be fair… Miranda’s ass.

    Did you lose her in ME3? The time I hooked up with her in 2 and didn’t continue in 3 she killed herself.

    Ive only played as dude Shep twice, and it was Ashley/Miranda/Ashley one time (shoulda stayed with Miranda) and Ashley/Jack/Jack the second.

    The citadel Jack scene if you are romancing her is one of the best scenes in the series. She gives Shep his first tattoo, but then breaks down and says it’s so his body can be identified if he dies on Earth.

  6. 1 hour ago, Zathras said:

    Who else thought Anakin actually fell into a volcano when he dueled Obi Wan?

    I did-- but also knowing that's impossible, I always thought he landed on a ledge and the hot air burned his lungs. I never thought he was burned up.

  7. Not that I thought it totally through, but I always thought Anakin actively left his saber behind upon quitting being a Jedi, leaving it and Obi-Wan at the same time. He turns bad, then he and Obi-Wan fight to a stand still. Obi-Wan dies, Anakin is so messed up he goes in the suit (the ANH novel had said Vader has fallen into a molten/lava pit and they fought on a volcanic field.) He doesn't know about OB-1 who has taken Luke to Tattooine. The name stuff could just be OB-1 getting familial. 

    To be honest, there's no version, fan or canon, where Luke or Ben keeping their last names while in hiding on Darth Vader's home planet is smart. Worst incognito ever.

  8. 1 hour ago, Lord Darth Hunter said:

    What if the twins had been separated in the opposite way? Luke had been adopted by the Organas and Leia had gone to live as a farmer on Tatooine? How would the saga had played out?

    This was played out in a comic book. I can't recall the title, but when Dark Horse was doing the SW comics they had a "what if" series, and this switch was played out through the course of the OT. It was actually pretty cool.

    There's tons or articles, youtube videos, and fan art dedicated to the concept.

     

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  9. 3 hours ago, Odine said:

    Sure, but I don't think one can simply shed ones conscience particularly easily. Which was the point of Kylos struggle. And in the end, he failed in trying to rid himself of his conscience.

    His entire arc was about "killing" his past. He killed Han, he tried to kill Leia-- tbh now that it is said and done, Kylo Ren is the only part of the ST that I think worked. We had the exact sort of conflict I wanted to see with Anakin in the PT. I think his journey was actually more satisfying than Rey's./ I think Kylo's path was the ONLY thing that Abrams and Johnson agreed on, so it actually worked.

  10. 34 minutes ago, Zathras said:

    Also, C'baoth was supposed to originally be an evil clone of Obi Wan. I am sure that helped the rumor of a OB-1 clone persist.

    That was just because Lucas actually drew a line with Zahn doing stupid shit.

    He should have drawn it sooner.

  11. I'm old. I was in grade school when the OT movies came out. Some of you are as old as me... at any rate, I recall my friends and I having a LOT of theories about things over the years. I think some of them were really fun, and recall a lot of them. It's also been fun to try and figure out where they came from considering there was no internet back then, and spoilers didn't exist.

    The few I can recall--

    1. OB-1. A lot of people wondered if Ben was a clone of the original Obi-Wan. I think this came from how sometimes R2D2 and C3P0's names were spelled out phonetically. At some point that log was reverse applied to Obi-Wan. Dude talks about the Clone Wars, and sure sounds like a clone name. I've googled this up to see if anyone had this theory way back when and see a LOT of people did. Some people even claim that it was going to be canonized in the PT. I don't know if that is true, but I foudn this theory:

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    The brief synopsis of how this idea would be woven into the prequels is that there is no secret clone army; instead, the Jedi are intentionally cloning themselves to keep up their numbers in the face of some threat. However in keeping with the Thrawn trilogy, cloning and the force have an adversarial relationship and cloning, force-sensitive people in particular, leads to mental weakness and instability in the clones. 

    This weakness makes these ersatz Jedi particularly susceptible to the Dark Side, which leads to large numbers of them being recruited by a Sith Lord and ultimately to epic Jedi-on-Jedi battles, including the killing of Ben Kenobi by his apprentice Anakin as part of Anakin's fall and transformation into to Darth Vader.

    After Ben Kenobi's murder, it is OB-1 who has Leia taken to Alderaan and who takes Luke to Tatooine to be raised in the desert while he keeps a distant watch.

    I mean-- I kinda like that.

    2. The Biggs scenes-- I had a friend who SWORE he saw them when he saw the movie, when the rest of us just saw the pics of it in the official kids storybook version of the movie. I remember him acting it out in great detail beyond what the storybook covered. I eventually realized that he had heard the radio drama. Which was actually the source of a lot of know-it-all information for a couple kids who seemed to know WAY more about Star Wars than anyone else.

    3. Lightsaber colors-- so this one was funny. I don't actually recall seeing ANH in theaters as I was too young (3). But by the time I was 5 I had a lot of Star Wars toys. ALL of them had Luke with a yellow lightsaber. ESB and ROTJ I remember seeing in the theater. When ESB presented Luke with a blue lightsaber I was a bit confused. When the trailers to ROTJ came out and it was GREEN, my know it all friend said that lightsabers could change color depending on your level of Jedi. This was "proven" by the fact that the official lightsaber toy we all had had a decal that had buttons/lights of each color. CONFIRMED!!!! 11 one omg

    4. Boba Fett-- This one came from me. Everyone had a theory about Fett and I claimed to know the truth. I had issue #68 of the Star wars Marvel comic that came out post ESB. In it, was a dude named Fenn Shysa in Mandalorian armor. I've since gone back and confirmed that really, the set up was that this dude fought with Fett during the Clone Wars. But back then I mis have not read closely, I assumed it WAS Fett. All of that has of course been retconned.

    5. Vader was a clone. Based purely on not understanding that the cave sequence on Dagobah was allegorical, some kid in my third grade class insisted that Vader was a clone of Luke's father (who still had no name art the time) and took it one step further saying that Luke was also a clone, since they all clearly had the same face.

  12. 1 hour ago, Darth Krawlie said:

    I'm think the Maguire/Garfield Spider-Men and villains aren't supposed to be the EXACT ones we saw in the past movies, just similar enough versions. Probably for those various reasons, the age difference.

    As I lamented during Loki, the multiverse makes for your alters not necessarily even being the same species as you. Again-- Into The Spiderverse actually made this work.

  13. 3 hours ago, Zathras said:

    Yeah, before the PT was released, I had an impression that the Clone Wars were a series of wars.  Not just one war.  I had envisioned that there were cloned jedi, fighting cloned Boba Fetts (back before I knew about Mandalorians) and a bunch of Darths (the Sith before I knew them as such).  Stupid? Maybe, but then again it was when I was a kid. LOL  When the Thrawn trilogy came out, it seemed to confirm part of what I thought.  THe PT kind of confirmed the Fett part of it.  But none of what came out was quite the way I thought it would be. Strange.

    Imagine what it would be like if the PT revealed that Vader was actually a corrupted clone of Anakin.

  14. On 8/20/2021 at 4:56 PM, Quetzalcoatl said:

    Why did Padme suspect Dooku to be behind her assassination attempts in AOTC?  She was right of course, but on the surface he should have been the last guy to point a finger at.  She was a separatist sympathizer.  She was kinda on their side.  So why would she even think Dooku was trying to kill her?  I never understood that.  

    Padme was never pro-Separatist, she was pro-Republic. She knew that a Republic unified army under the direct command of the chancellor was not keeping with what the Republic stood for. All the cut loyalist committee scenes from ROTS would have made it much more clear.

    She was basically opposing the leadership of both factions and pro-peace. Given her connection to Palpatine she disagreed with him, but she didn't suspect him of anything other than making bad decisions. So it would make sense to assume Dooku was behind it. (When really, she was a threat to both Sith Lords.)

    Still kills me how the PT has some great political intrigue ideas, but executes them so poorly.

    It's like Steve Rogers in Captain America and Winter Soldier. He had the morals to stand for an ideal and still turn his back on SHIELD knowing they were corrupt. That didn't make him pro-Hydra, it just made him morally right.

  15. That spell is totally a clever nod to One More Day (and terrible an idea it was.)

    I’m not a Spider-Man mark, but I do love Tom Holland’s version. And while I generally hate multi-verse stuff I did like Into the Spider-Verse and bringing in the other two Spideys is actually cool… and also gives us a window for the X-Men.

  16. 12 hours ago, Cerina said:

    No, not really. He didn't tell me about it right away because they were just cleavage pics, and he told her to cut it out and eventually stopped talking to her. He considered the matter handled, but then he had to give me the whole story when she invited us to a get together that he didn't want to attend. And I honestly don't care much about the pics themselves, but right before he stopped talking to her completely she had taken to hiding in closets and sending him whispered messages via Marco Polo so her husband didn't find out they were talking (husband is more jealous than I am) and then she told him to delete the pics (which Trevor had already done) and told him "don't let Cereese see those". That's basically what ended the friendship. 

    When it comes down to it, keeping a secret and doing something you know your partner wouldn’t mine is more “cheating” than any actual act. (Though said acts could fit the bill)

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